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freezingflyboy 01-25-2008 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by robthree (Post 307260)
Well, there's no telling if it was from the ERJ or something else. But 10 years of throwing bags on the ramp didn't hurt it. And 7 years flying other aircraft didn't hurt it. But after 6 months in the saddle of an ERJ....

Like everything else in the world it probably was a little of this and a little of that. A genetic predisposition. Too much (or too little) calcium in my diet. A god forsakenly heavy flight bag, and too many trips up and down airstairs. And lifting onto the screening belt. And trying to place it in the overhead.

Maybe the ram's horns were just the last straw.

I hear ya. I've never had a problem after flying other airplanes with normal yokes, swimming, playing tennis and regular weight training for the last 7 years but 20 months in the ERJ and it starts acting up. I'm sure its a number of things with the ram horns being the proverbial straw that broke my arm. Good to know I'm not the only one though.

freezingflyboy 01-25-2008 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 307264)
What killed me in the ERJ was reaching back to lock the cockpit door. Doesn't bother me now in the CRJ, but hurt tremendously, very quickly, during my time at Trans States.

Yeah, thats a rough one too. I know some captains that don't even bother, they're just like "yeah, I can't get that thing any more, you do it". Good to know the Brazilians were so concerned with ergonomics when they designed this thing.

Salukipilot4590 01-25-2008 06:25 PM

Basically, can I get a workout by flying the ERJ?

sargeanb 01-25-2008 06:40 PM

Haven't had any problems yet...I usually don't use the armrests though...seems more comfortable without them. BTW, be sure to check under the armrests for any "special" pictures:)

jedinein 01-25-2008 07:37 PM

You might have irritated your ulnar nerve on the arm rests. Once that nerve gets going, it’s hard to settle down, especially if you keep doing the irritating thing. Typing on the computer, elbows on the lunch table, or even sleeping on the wrong side can cause issues with the nerves and tendons in the hands, elbows, forearms, and such.

Or you might have a nerve that slips in and out of its designated path, thus certain movements need to be avoided until things settle down, and then be wary of those movements. Some folks have to position the elbow on the rest, squirm around just a bit to make sure the nerve is not impinged, then have at it. After a few flights, they don't even think about it anymore and don't have problems.

A good sports medicine doc should be able to get the irritated part sorted out and get you on the right road to recovery.

NightIP 01-25-2008 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 307375)
Yeah, thats a rough one too. I know some captains that don't even bother, they're just like "yeah, I can't get that thing any more, you do it". Good to know the Brazilians were so concerned with ergonomics when they designed this thing.

You're telling me. I already have a screwed up left shoulder (multiple dislocations over the years requiring an ER trip, plus I still can't sleep on my left side), and reaching back there doesn't help. Not to mention, I just know one day I'm going to hurt myself by slinging my flight case over to the side of my seat. Good thing we have a sweet OJI bank. :o

WAVIT Inbound 01-25-2008 08:20 PM

After reading this thread I will never complain about the CRJ flight deck ever again. I will say when I jump seat on the 145 I often look at the crew and think "how do you guys deal with being so close to each other all day".

SharkAir 01-25-2008 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound (Post 307451)
After reading this thread I will never complain about the CRJ flight deck ever again. I will say when I jump seat on the 145 I often look at the crew and think "how do you guys deal with being so close to each other all day".

Well, yeah. The CRJ has six tubes. Not only is that an extra $25K, it's super cool.

ghilis101 01-26-2008 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound (Post 307451)
After reading this thread I will never complain about the CRJ flight deck ever again. I will say when I jump seat on the 145 I often look at the crew and think "how do you guys deal with being so close to each other all day".

wow you actually made it on the jumpseat of a 145? thats pretty rare considering they have a nasty habit of being weight restricted.

freezingflyboy 01-26-2008 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by ghilis101 (Post 307635)
wow you actually made it on the jumpseat of a 145? thats pretty rare considering they have a nasty habit of being weight restricted.

Must have been an XJT 145. Seems like we always have a jumpseater;)


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