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SharkAir 01-31-2008 05:55 PM

SkyWest Mins
 
I haven't seen this mentioned on here yet, but it seems like a big deal on the company forums. If you look closely at the pilot minimums on the SkyWest website, it now says 1,000 hours total (preferred). Just throwin' it out there.

Plus I never really start any threads, so I thought I'd be productive rather than sit on the sidelines and make sarcastic comments.

WAVIT Inbound 01-31-2008 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 311685)
I haven't seen this mentioned on here yet, but it seems like a big deal on the company forums. If you look closely at the pilot minimums on the SkyWest website, it now says 1,000 hours total (preferred). Just throwin' it out there.

Plus I never really start any threads, so I thought I'd be productive rather than sit on the sidelines and make sarcastic comments.

This is true. The last class had a few 800 hour guys that had no crj equivalent time.

threegreen 01-31-2008 06:02 PM

counting my days till their mins drop, someday...someday...

otter 01-31-2008 06:04 PM

This is why I still wonder if there is something (growth) coming? Do we really need more people this bad? There are no red arrows in SLC this month.

SharkAir 01-31-2008 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by threegreen (Post 311696)
counting my days till their mins drop, someday...someday...

I think they have. That was my point.

My understanding is they're still sticking to 100 of multi and instrument, but they're not holding firm on 1,000 total. But who knows, maybe they're not even holding to those.

WAVIT Inbound 01-31-2008 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by otter (Post 311702)
This is why I still wonder if there is something (growth) coming? Do we really need more people this bad? There are no red arrows in SLC this month.

Partially true. As of right now there will be no new hires in the second class in March. After that though we are stock piling again.

WAVIT Inbound 01-31-2008 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 311703)
I think they have. That was my point.

My understanding is they're still sticking to 100 of multi and instrument, but they're not holding firm on 1,000 total. But who knows, maybe they're not even holding to those.

Still have to have the 100 ME and 100 Inst.

threegreen 01-31-2008 06:12 PM

100 ME is still tough though. I already shelled out so much money for flying (including CFI/CFII), MEI will only add to the damage

WAVIT Inbound 01-31-2008 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by threegreen (Post 311716)
100 ME is still tough though. I already shelled out so much money for flying (including CFI/CFII), MEI will only add to the damage

We have all been there. Good luck. Hope to see you at Skywest soon.

threegreen 01-31-2008 06:19 PM

i know you guys did. I would get it, its just that i dont want to stay at ND any LONGER. Anyways, hoping to get picked up by ASA, other wise...MEI time

ExperimentalAB 01-31-2008 06:27 PM

Hired at 800 early last year...

WAVIT Inbound 01-31-2008 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 311732)
Hired at 800 early last year...

Yes but you had prior 121 rj time didn't you?

SharkAir 01-31-2008 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 311732)
Hired at 800 early last year...

That would explain all the hand flying. You still need the experience!

ExperimentalAB 01-31-2008 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound (Post 311738)
Yes but you had prior 121 rj time didn't you?

Yep - about 200 hours...this was before long before they "officially" lowered mins for those with RJ time. I actually flew all the way from Richmond to Seattle for a job fair, just to get turned away. They wouldn't even talk to me because of my time LoL. And a day later HR called for an interview date!

ExperimentalAB 01-31-2008 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 311741)
That would explain all the hand flying. You still need the experience!

Now that was a low-blow, Shark! :D

SharkAir 01-31-2008 06:37 PM

Oh come on. We're all on the same team here.

ExperimentalAB 01-31-2008 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 311744)
Oh come on. We're all on the same team here.

Oh I know it - Last time I checked, both our team Jersey's said "Jerry's Kids" on the back LoL

iahflyr 01-31-2008 06:53 PM

I personally think the 100 hours of multi engine time is overrated.

I do like the 100 hours of instrument requirement. I think all airlines should have mins like that. I also think having a reasonably high TT minimums is a good idea.

But why does 100 hours of multi seem to be a universal requirement. I think there is not much difference between having 25 and 100 hours of multi. I would rather see someone with better experience (college degree, 1000+ TT, lots of instrument time, CFI/II/MEI ratings, etc...) and have 25 hours of ME rather than someone who has none of those, but bought a 100 hour block of ME time.

Maybe 50 hours of multi is a better minimum.

SharkAir 01-31-2008 06:55 PM

Yeah, 100 hours of multi isn't eco-friendly, either. Think of all the wasted fuel. Somebody better call Susan Sarandon.

WAVIT Inbound 01-31-2008 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 311765)
I personally think the 100 hours of multi engine time is overrated.

I do like the 100 hours of instrument requirement. I think all airlines should have mins like that. I also think having a reasonably high TT minimums is a good idea.

But why does 100 hours of multi seem to be a universal requirement. I think there is not much difference between having 25 and 100 hours of multi. I would rather see someone with better experience (college degree, 1000+ TT, lots of instrument time, CFI/II/MEI ratings, etc...) and have 25 hours of ME rather than someone who has none of those, but bought a 100 hour block of ME time.

Maybe 50 hours of multi is a better minimum.

Maybe. I think the point has always been to show you can fly something a little complex with more power and speed. That's what I have assumed anyways. Of course there are some singles out there with way more of both of these that some light twins.

SharkAir 01-31-2008 06:58 PM

Well, you know, Thunderbird pilots are getting turned down all over the place because they have nothing but single engine day VFR time.

ExperimentalAB 01-31-2008 06:58 PM

For once, I actually agree with iahflyr that the multi-requirement becomes nothing more than a box to check at 100 hrs. I have a hard time believing that the learning plateaus any higher than 50 hours or so (for most applicants, of course!)...

threegreen 01-31-2008 07:01 PM

WAVIT, i agree to a certain point. But more speed is not always the case, take a look for example at a SR20 compare to a seminole, basically same speeds.

WAVIT Inbound 01-31-2008 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 311771)
Well, you know, Thunderbird pilots are getting turned down all over the place because they have nothing but single engine day VFR time.


LOL. Yeah, sorry Mr. Thunderbird pilot. You have not proven you can fly a complex multi engine Seminole yet. NO JOB FOR YOU!

WAVIT Inbound 01-31-2008 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by threegreen (Post 311774)
WAVIT, i agree to a certain point. But more speed is not always the case, take a look for example at a SR20 compare to a seminole, basically same speeds.


I'm not saying I disagree with that fact. That's what I was saying, there are some singles with more power than light twins. I just think this was one of the airlines reasons for having the requirement.

threegreen 01-31-2008 07:06 PM

yep you are rt, no argument there...

ExperimentalAB 01-31-2008 07:07 PM

It's funny that during my ATP Instructor Standardization (for those in the know, the "Rich" ride), I was ripped to pieces for not slowing the Seminole down to 100 KIAS 15 nm out...I was told that anything more is way too fast for the students...:rolleyes:

You can sure as hell bet that I wasn't teaching my students junk like that.

ANPBird 01-31-2008 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by otter (Post 311702)
This is why I still wonder if there is something (growth) coming? Do we really need more people this bad? There are no red arrows in SLC this month.

Then send your extras to California if your talking about the BRO! I have only seen one day with no red arrows since SkidPlus+ started for us in FAT. Not even with 11 reserves (17%) FO's give us any flexibility. I say put all the new hires in the EMB's to beef us up a bit. They are not moving many of us to the jet because there are plenty of CRJ FO's sitting around and nobody to replace us BRO guys. I will be lucky to get a transition award after being here 14 months. Enough moaning from me now! Good night from the SkyWest motherland.

Timmay 01-31-2008 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by ANPBird (Post 311819)
Then send your extras to California if your talking about the BRO! I have only seen one day with no red arrows since SkidPlus+ started for us in FAT. Not even with 11 reserves (17%) FO's give us any flexibility. I say put all the new hires in the EMB's to beef us up a bit. They are not moving many of us to the jet because there are plenty of CRJ FO's sitting around and nobody to replace us BRO guys. I will be lucky to get a transition award after being here 14 months. Enough moaning from me now! Good night from the SkyWest motherland.

Yeah, no joke. To be brutally honest, there WAS a day with a red arrow back in late December. It just so happened that I had a local that I wanted dropped, and voila! It was a magical day.

ANPBird 01-31-2008 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Timmay (Post 311828)
Yeah, no joke. To be brutally honest, there WAS a day with a red arrow back in late December. It just so happened that I had a local that I wanted dropped, and voila! It was a magical day.

I stand corrected then! Two whole days with no red arrows! I was probably off that day so I missed it. Congrats my friend!

skystruck 01-31-2008 08:11 PM

I'm hoping to interview with SkyWest soon. I'm currently at 1350TT / 95ME. I was speaking with a SkyWest recruiter yesterday and they are not budging on the 100ME. She told me that they are definitely hiring and that she will be excited to speak with me as soon as I meet the 100 ME requirement. Until that time, gotta keep flying. Frankly I'm glad, I hope to get on with SkyWest and I want to work at a place that has tried to uphold its standards. I've had to work hard to attain the flight time that I have as I know everyone who is already at SkyWest has had to do. I don't want the Captains that I'm going to fly with to look down on us new guys because management decided to lower minimums. IMHO, I think its a mistake for SkyWest to publish on its website that the 1000TT is "preferred". If they want to recruit someone with less than that, it's their business. But by putting the word preferred on the website, it invites people to apply with far less than 1000TT. If someone already has some 121 experience, then lowering time requirements may make sense. But for those of us coming out of a CFI job or some other form of GA flying, 1000TT seems like the right minimum.

skystruck 01-31-2008 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by ANPBird (Post 311819)
Then send your extras to California if your talking about the BRO! I have only seen one day with no red arrows since SkidPlus+ started for us in FAT.

oh and ANP, I'm hoping (if I get hired (fingers crossed)) to be assigned the BRO in FAT. So hang on and you may get some relief and then get a chance to slide over to the RJ.

berge7f9 01-31-2008 09:22 PM

Could someone please post the link where it says "preferred" next to 1000 hours total time? I cannot find such language on the company website.

getrichflytryin 01-31-2008 09:34 PM

i think the 100 hours of multi time is shenanagens. got my mei, got my "hundred multi" and more. then i flew the caravan for a thousand hours, got hired with a regional no problemos. My roommate did the same exact thing sans the mei and multi time. got like 30 hours of twin from riddle, and the likes of colgan are hasseling him about his lack of twin time?! I mean the dude pic'ed a caravan for a 135 and they think he need some time in a seminole to what? really load up on debt? seriously what are you going to learn in the second fifty hours in a light twin that you are not going to learn in the first. Unless there some insurance reg im not aware of i just dont get makin 100 hours of light twin golden time. Specially when the guy is skilled and has shown he knows how to fly.

skystruck 02-01-2008 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by berge7f9 (Post 311892)
Could someone please post the link where it says "preferred" next to 1000 hours total time? I cannot find such language on the company website.

http://www.skywest.com/careers/index.php

Once on that page you have to click on "Pilots" under the "Career Guides" heading.

dontsurf 02-01-2008 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by getrichflytryin (Post 311897)
Unless there some insurance reg im not aware of i just dont get makin 100 hours of light twin golden time.

i agree 100% with what you said in your paragraph regarind caravan time. but this sentence is probably where you hit the nail on the head. i'd bet (and i have no actual information to back this up), that it is in fact an insurance consideration. heck, why even be qualified in a multiengine plane at all, in the overall scheme of things? f16 guys can get hired by majors, and there is only one engine on those. so i'm sure it's an insurance thing that is just easier to draw a very hard line somewhere and not look at someone's "specifics".


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