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swa1018 02-05-2008 03:01 PM

Colgan interview LGA 2/11/08
 
Hey everyone,

Just got a call today from Chuck. Scheduled an interview for next monday february 11th at LGA. Just seeing if anyone else got invited?

Anyone care to PM me there personal experiences with a colgan interview...(yes i've been reading up on aviationinterviews.com)

My times are 420/30

POPA 02-05-2008 03:04 PM

You Low-timers Taking Jobs At Colgan Are Stealing Jobs From Mainline! You Scab!

Edit: that was supposed to be in all caps. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over?

DMEarc 02-05-2008 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 314682)
You Low-timers Taking Jobs At Colgan Are Stealing Jobs From Mainline! You Scab!

Edit: that was supposed to be in all caps. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over?

Who the hell are you telling him that?

Go read the definition of a scab.

George Dubya 02-05-2008 03:07 PM

30 multi excellent we will double that on your IOE!

POPA 02-05-2008 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 314687)
Who the hell are you telling him that?

Go read the definition of a scab.

I think the lack of all caps really detracted from my sarcasm.

batman 02-05-2008 03:18 PM

Hey dude.. im a captain here at Colgan, and I'm looking to go be an FO somewhere else- it that bad. PM me if you want any details or if you have questions.

mooney 02-05-2008 03:18 PM

i detect another 20 page FNG/shiny new prop/anti-union rant on the way....:eek:

swa1018 02-05-2008 03:27 PM

seems like everyone hates colgan? is it really really that bad?

ralphmacheo 02-05-2008 03:34 PM

Get ready ... incoming.

DMEarc 02-05-2008 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by swa1018 (Post 314708)
seems like everyone hates colgan? is it really really that bad?

The people who are the most happy at Colgan are the ones who live in base.

Don't go there thinking it's going to be like XJT where you're whisked around the country in beautiful hotels...you will fly from Dulles to Altoona all day, all month, all year. You wont see other airports.

batman 02-05-2008 03:50 PM

I used to do AOO to IAD all day!!!

usmc-sgt 02-05-2008 06:04 PM

Lets attempt to keep this on topic so this one doesnt completely stray as the others have.

Please lets keep this to pilots who work for Colgan or who have worked for Colgan and have first hand information. There is more than enough negative info on Colgan on this site and he can definately do the search function to track it down, no need for another 6 page thread.

The Colgan threads have been getting out of hand lately, just look at any Colgan thread and by post 40 you would never know what the original topic was. I am not speaking for or against Colgan but as a mod for the sake of not having to flush another thread.

Jamers 02-05-2008 06:31 PM

If you work here, don't forget to vote YES for a union.

usmc-sgt 02-05-2008 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Jamers (Post 314828)
If you work here, don't forget to vote YES for a union.

You're preaching to the choir, ill be leading the charge.

batman 02-05-2008 07:16 PM

Jamers is going to be handing out cards in H-town, ill be doing the same in Boston and LGA... USMC- you wanna help out in Newark and around the Dash 8 system?

Jamers 02-05-2008 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 314831)
You're preaching to the choir, ill be leading the charge.

I know you are a yes vote sarge, my message goes out to all of our future candidates. I'm setting up with a few contacts to get on the organizing committee, PM me if you want to compare notes.

Laxrox43 02-05-2008 07:41 PM

SWA,

Colgan is for some folks, and not for others. I am one of the guys that is OK with the company. Yes, I, like others, have their moments where they want to throw in the towel, but it isn't really that bad. It all depends on your attitude (and where you’re based – SAAB that’s for you). If you start with a horrible attitude, you will be miserable. I can guarantee you that.

Your times are a little on the low side for the Dash (from what I have been told), but there is a good chance that you could get hired onto the Saab. Who knows? But, I would prefer to see you on the Saab, rather then the Dash, because the pay rates are insulting for both FO's and CA's.

Another thing to think about is you might go to the interview and have a reality check and think, "Whoa, maybe I do need a little more time to develop my skills and abilities!" I don't mean for it to come across as an insult, but some of us have had that happen to us. No worries, there is enough of a pilot shortage to where you could go instruct a little bit longer and try again when you get another couple hundred hours. No shame in that!

Anyway, this job is what you make of it, no matter what company you get hired at. Yes, working for a better company flying a jet would be awesome. But, even SAAB would agree that flying a t-prop is one of the most memorable experiences of his/a pilots’ flying career. That my friend, I can assure you.

Good luck on the 11th. Let us know if you need any tips/advice on the process.

Lax

JoeyMeatballs 02-05-2008 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by swa1018 (Post 314680)
Hey everyone,

Just got a call today from Chuck. Scheduled an interview for next monday february 11th at LGA. Just seeing if anyone else got invited?

Anyone care to PM me there personal experiences with a colgan interview...(yes i've been reading up on aviationinterviews.com)

My times are 420/30

You want advice, go learn how to fly an airplane. That is embarrassing that you are getting an interview with that much time..........

Im jealous though, the SAAB was an awesome airplane.......

JoeyMeatballs 02-05-2008 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by batman (Post 314875)
Jamers is going to be handing out cards in H-town, ill be doing the same in Boston and LGA... USMC- you wanna help out in Newark and around the Dash 8 system?

Hey if you guys need any help in EWR, let me know I will get the other union guys involved too

usmc-sgt 02-05-2008 08:20 PM

PM sent

-filler-

batman 02-05-2008 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 314903)
Hey if you guys need any help in EWR, let me know I will get the other union guys involved too

We will need tons of help, and I will be getting in touch with you about it.

And thanks again for the ride to IAD from Newark a few months ago.

Sbaker1595 02-05-2008 10:40 PM

interesting stuff.....my phone has been ringing off the hook and ive gotten 3 emails from colgan in one week....sent me an email yesterday asking if i was availible for interview in houston on wednesday...its such short notice that i cant make it.....im new to this and am willing to interview with whoever will give me one just to keep my options open....but to me it seems like colgan is desperate....i told them i will not be avalible until may to interview...im currently in my last semmester of college and my current job on top keeps me from having the time to interview, i feel bad putting them off but it seems like they are desperate for pilots...my current times are 520 and 150multi.. seems like thats more than enough to keep them interested these days

Sbaker1595 02-05-2008 10:48 PM

I am not trying to be rude but to be honest you should be still learning to fly airplanes at that amount of time not working for an airline. Serious question, How would you feel about putting your family on an airliner with a bunch of low experienced pilots? These airlines are getting out of control with their hiring practices:eek:

Again This is more of an attack on the airlines for resorting to hiring inexperienced pilots instead of paying more for experience. Its scary.[/quote]

hey no offense to anyone here, im here to learn just like everyone else...but i dont think its fair to judge somone on time alone... with my times i have already been deemed worthy for an interview at eagle...if your a competent pilot with your head on a swivel there is no problem accepting pilots with that amount of time for an interview...just my 2 cents... dont be too harsh guys....were all in the same boat just trying to make it in the world...if some low timer can get an interview, more power to him!!

JoeyMeatballs 02-06-2008 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by batman (Post 314915)
We will need tons of help, and I will be getting in touch with you about it.

And thanks again for the ride to IAD from Newark a few months ago.



No problem, Im PM you my phone number.

Superpilot92 02-06-2008 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by Sbaker1595 (Post 314962)
hey no offense to anyone here, im here to learn just like everyone else...but i dont think its fair to judge somone on time alone... with my times i have already been deemed worthy for an interview at eagle...if your a competent pilot with your head on a swivel there is no problem accepting pilots with that amount of time for an interview...just my 2 cents... dont be too harsh guys....were all in the same boat just trying to make it in the world...if some low timer can get an interview, more power to him!!

Nothing i said should be offensive. Also i would expect you to say that since you yourself are low time. Let me know when you get your time built up if you still feel the same way. I will admit when i was low time i probably said the same thing but you, like I, will eventually see that it is absolutely stupid. Do you realize why you are getting calls? Its not because of your experience, its because these companies have hit rock bottom. If they paid appropriately and treated people better then they would be getting qualified apps. Just reality not an insult.

Squawk_5543 02-06-2008 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 314900)

Im jealous though, the SAAB was an awesome airplane.......


Hey it ain't dead yet.

The saab IS an awesome airplane!!

(p.s. I don't work for Colgan)

JoeyMeatballs 02-06-2008 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by Squawk_5543 (Post 315033)
Hey it ain't dead yet.

The saab IS an awesome airplane!!

haha yeah thats what I meant (sounds like the clip from Top Gun when Iceman and Maverick were talking about that guy) hahah sad that I remember that

Sbaker1595 02-06-2008 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 315031)
If they paid appropriately and treated people better then they would be getting qualified apps.

99.9999% of the problem with regional airlines!!!

The Juice 02-06-2008 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 315035)
haha yeah thats what I meant (sounds like the clip from Top Gun when Iceman and Maverick were talking about that guy) hahah sad that I remember that

What's this movie 'Top Gun' that I keep hearing about, is it at the movies right now? ;)

DMEarc 02-06-2008 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Squawk_5543 (Post 315033)
(p.s. I don't work for Colgan)

Sucks to be you.

That the thing- Colgan's Pilots get blaster for operating the Q at those HORRIBLE rates, but no one says anything about Mesaba flying the 900 for terrible rates either.

And why...because Mesaba has ALPA? They're pulling down the industry, just like all other 900 operators, just like Colgan.

You're stealing flying from mainline...SCAB!

Superpilot92 02-06-2008 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 315089)
Sucks to be you.

That the thing- Colgan's Pilots get blaster for operating the Q at those HORRIBLE rates, but no one says anything about Mesaba flying the 900 for terrible rates either.

And why...because Mesaba has ALPA? They're pulling down the industry, just like all other 900 operators, just like Colgan.

You're stealing flying from mainline...SCAB!

While the payrates should be better, mesaba is owned by the respective major and offers a flowback/up to the NWA pilots. So its a tradeoff. Sure they are flying routes that should be Mainline routes but show me a Legacy carrier that hasnt farmed out some flying to a regional. The question isnt really about whose flying whose routes but who is actively trying to better their pay not make it worse. Colgan is making it worse with the Q.

AlaskaOps 02-07-2008 11:23 AM

Colgan is highering at some low-low times, but that doesn't make it easier to get through training, does it? I would imagine that this is where they will wash out some of these low time pilots. Do they just figure they'll get lucky and catch a 200 TT guy that just has good skills?

FlyingPoke 02-07-2008 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by AlaskaOps (Post 316034)
Colgan is highering at some low-low times, but that doesn't make it easier to get through training, does it? I would imagine that this is where they will wash out some of these low time pilots. Do they just figure they'll get lucky and catch a 200 TT guy that just has good skills?


I dont have a dog in this fight, but just so its clear how low Colgan is hiring... after hearing about their pilot development program I emailed someone in HR and they said my times(multi) werent enough for the program... so they arent stooping down to the 200TT guys quite yet, unless they are just looking for anyone with 50 multi and dont care about TT (I'm 400/25)

BZNpilot248 02-07-2008 05:36 PM

I've been hearing a lot about Colgan and their payrates with the Q, etc. etc. but What about Lynx?? I havn't heard much there - they are non union, are they working to get a union on property? Not wanting to stir the pot but I"m interested in how this all shakes out. Do people think the frontier stuff has any future? Are they getting a break from criticism since they are a startup and colgan is not?

The Juice 02-07-2008 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by BZNpilot248 (Post 316335)
I've been hearing a lot about Colgan and their payrates with the Q, etc. etc. but What about Lynx?? I havn't heard much there - they are non union, are they working to get a union on property? Not wanting to stir the pot but I"m interested in how this all shakes out. Do people think the frontier stuff has any future? Are they getting a break from criticism since they are a startup and colgan is not?

Colgan is the punching bag for many right now. You bring up valid points that others have brought up as well. There are many airlines thay pay less than colgan but some fail to see it.

BZNpilot248 02-07-2008 08:20 PM

It seems there are three categories of airlines on these forums, the "golden three" i.e. Republic, Skywest, Xjet (we know you guys are all rock stars..:p) - The relatively anonymous / or flavor of the week (popular one day, not great the next but good job you guys, you've made it as pilots! :rolleyes:) and then rounding out the bottom are the TSA's, Colgans, and most distantly Mesa and GoJet which many will say, if you MUST - don't stay, or don't go period. (you're either unlucky, puncing your ticket for greener pastures, or DANG YOU SCREWED UP! :eek:)

In reality all are regionals with their issues - steppings stones but if you get stuck, there are some you could have a livable career with and others would be pure hell. Just my take but individual mileage may vary at ANY CARRIER. But I guess there is some merit to it, just taken with a grain of salt.

N2rotation 02-08-2008 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 314818)
The Colgan threads have been getting out of hand lately, just look at any Colgan thread and by post 40 you would never know what the original topic was. I am not speaking for or against Colgan but as a mod for the sake of not having to flush another thread.

But I think you are.

Colgan pride is so annoying.

usmc-sgt 02-08-2008 04:49 AM

You are incorrect N2. It was an unbiased post as a moderator and not a colgan pilot. You would probably be surprised to know that I hardly moderate any colgan threads. It was a statement simply saying that if this thread continues to stray far right off target it will be closed just like every other thread that does the same on here. Whether it be a UPS, FDX, XJet, United or other, if it strays it goes.

So quick to judge something you have no facts on.

de727ups 02-08-2008 08:00 AM

I've had enough....

We used to have a lot of Jetblue bashing at this site. We got rid of a couple people and it changed the whole tone of the JetBlue threads.

People can post their opinion about Colgan to their hearts content, here, but I've had it with the level of disrespect, one liners, and flamebait. We expect a higher standard from APC users than what I'm starting to see here.

If you have something to contribute, do so in a professional manner and with the level of respect you'd show in a face to face converstion. If you can't do that, you'd be better off just not posting.

Thanks for your help.


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