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bornc7d 02-06-2008 12:57 PM

How Long do you wait
 
Kind of like being in a relationship that isnt going well. If you were a 9E Pilot how long do you wait before you jump ship. I have been with the company for about 7 months and came from another company before that. Coming to 9E might not have been the best decision but hindsight 20/20 right. Just looking for some other peoples thoughts.

mccube5 02-06-2008 01:03 PM

all i will say is you dont want to establish a track record of constantly jumping ship. unless you know you are jumping to something that offers ten fold the QOL you have now, i would stay put.

remember the grass is always greener...

UCLAbruins 02-06-2008 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by mccube5 (Post 315350)
all i will say is you dont want to establish a track record of constantly jumping ship. unless you know you are jumping to something that offers ten fold the QOL you have now, i would stay put.

remember the grass is always greener...

well said. Jumping around the regionals looks very bad on a resume, a diffficult to explain.....

You leave a regional for a regional to get turbine experience, or jet experience, but leaving a regional for another just because you don't like it, big no no...like I said, difficult to explain

kansas 02-06-2008 01:22 PM

Until you have 1000 turbine PIC.

Or, to be more accurate, until you have accomplished whatever it is you set out to do when you took the class date with that airline.

bornc7d 02-06-2008 01:38 PM

Yes that is what I have basically been thinking, I would like to be able to show loyalty on my resume, The current situation has just been forcing me to ask questions and was looking for reassurance

Thanks

freezingflyboy 02-06-2008 02:20 PM

I'd sit tight if I were you. Keep your head down till you're off probation, support your fellow pilots, don't do anything stupid like cross a picket line (if it comes to that) and wait for things to shake out. Seven months if halfway to upgrade there, from what it sounds like so you might as well tough it out. It worked out in the long run for Mesaba and I'm willing to bet the turbulence will pass at Pinnacle too. And so what if worse comes to worse and they shut the doors, send y'all packing and turn the airplanes into soda cans? At least it will be easier to explain to a future employer why you left:D

Just think of it like a bad relationship but the girl is smoking hot and a nympho to boot. She might be a pain the a$$ sometimes and yeah, its an emotional roller coaster but you're getting what you need (a paycheck and building time) without the emotional attachment.:D

SharkyBN584 02-06-2008 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 315417)
Just think of it like a bad relationship but the girl is smoking hot and a nympho to boot. She might be a pain the a$$ sometimes and yeah, its an emotional roller coaster but you're getting what you need (a paycheck and building time) without the emotional attachment.:D

I know I can live like that for a little over 2 years...you got plenty of time to go...sit tight. :cool:

Senior Skipper 02-06-2008 04:31 PM

What's 9E?

Jumperno64 02-06-2008 04:50 PM

an airline :)

hotelmode 02-06-2008 04:59 PM

That's pinchanickle isn't it?

coldpilot 02-06-2008 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by hotelmode (Post 315539)
That's pinchanickle isn't it?

AKA: pitiful, pina colada, penuckle, etc.

I don't care much for the pina colada one.... That implies enjoying a fruity beverage in a tropical paradise.... Pinnacle is quite the contrary :D

bornc7d 02-07-2008 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 315417)
I'd sit tight if I were you. Keep your head down till you're off probation, support your fellow pilots, don't do anything stupid like cross a picket line (if it comes to that) and wait for things to shake out. Seven months if halfway to upgrade there, from what it sounds like so you might as well tough it out. It worked out in the long run for Mesaba and I'm willing to bet the turbulence will pass at Pinnacle too. And so what if worse comes to worse and they shut the doors, send y'all packing and turn the airplanes into soda cans? At least it will be easier to explain to a future employer why you left:D

Just think of it like a bad relationship but the girl is smoking hot and a nympho to boot. She might be a pain the a$$ sometimes and yeah, its an emotional roller coaster but you're getting what you need (a paycheck and building time) without the emotional attachment.:D

Yeah good call, it worth wondering how much good would come from just one reasonable sized regional closing its doors would do for the industry.

I just stick with the nympho

SkyHigh 02-07-2008 08:27 AM

Stick it out
 
I would stick it out but remember if you go down with the ship then you will hit the street with a thousand or more of your equally qualified ex-coworkers.

It has been written on these forums that nearly half the pilots who are laid off after a shut down never find another suitable job in aviation.

SkyHigh

flynavyj 02-07-2008 08:55 AM

I'd nearly agree with skyhigh on that one, as being on the market after the company closes their doors will make it that much more difficult to find other work. On the contrary, i wouldn't go jumping from regional to regional in search of some magical quality of life (unless you talk to skywest guys, or the express jet bunch, it doesn't exist).

If a regional airline job is your ultimate goal, and your choice "life" regional is hiring, alright, it'd be understandable. But if you're using this job as a "stepping stone" like 90% of the individuals on here, then all you'd be doing is putting yourself back to the bottom of the list again and starting over. Sacrifice now, reward later.

freezingflyboy 02-07-2008 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 315955)
I'd nearly agree with skyhigh on that one, as being on the market after the company closes their doors will make it that much more difficult to find other work. On the contrary, i wouldn't go jumping from regional to regional in search of some magical quality of life (unless you talk to skywest guys, or the express jet bunch, it doesn't exist).

If a regional airline job is your ultimate goal, and your choice "life" regional is hiring, alright, it'd be understandable. But if you're using this job as a "stepping stone" like 90% of the individuals on here, then all you'd be doing is putting yourself back to the bottom of the list again and starting over. Sacrifice now, reward later.

Amen...each jump just means more time spent at the bottom which means more reserve time, 1st year pay, training cycles and poor QOL. These guys that jump ship every time they hear a rumor from the rampers brothers friends college roommate that the sky is falling are just morons.

MadRabbit 02-07-2008 11:51 AM

I feel your pain, I flew the line at 9E for about 8 months and it drove me out of aviation altogether for about two years. When I came back to flying, I know that the "run away screaming" approach I took and you're considering cost me at least one job offer. I was lucky to get back in to the 121 world if you ask me. I hate to say it, but stay where you are. If I could go back and do it over again, I wouldn't have left.

ExperimentalAB 02-07-2008 12:02 PM

Ran into a Pilot here not too long ago that finally made it to SkyWest via Trans States and RAH...he'll be building that "loyalty" here, and that kind of determination has got to count for something as well...But jumping-ship again is a decision that should certainly not be taken lightly. You've got to be sure it won't come back to bite you...good luck weathering the storm my friend!

kansas 02-07-2008 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 315940)
I would stick it out but remember if you go down with the ship then you will hit the street with a thousand or more of your equally qualified ex-coworkers.

It has been written on these forums that nearly half the pilots who are laid off after a shut down never find another suitable job in aviation.

SkyHigh

SkyHigh, where have you been? Good to see you around here again.:)


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