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BoilerWings 02-09-2008 08:27 AM

RJ Bridge for Eagle
 
Just got hired by Eagle a few days ago. Since my times are 550/50, they want me to attend a 3-week RJ transition course at either Regional Airline Academy (RAA) or FlightSafety. The course is entirely paid for, so there's no out-of-pocket expense on my end.

I'm just wondering if anyone has done this RJ transition and what their experience was. I have not heard much about RAA, but FlightSafety has a good reputation. Any feedback on either of these schools would be great.

papacharlie 02-09-2008 08:44 AM

If I had to choose I will go with FlightSafety,better training and curriculum,have a couple friends trained a FlightSafety and they were happy.
Could you tell me how did they offer you this job?
Im living in san diego and will like to apply to AE but I have my commercial and instrument from argentina,got a work permit last week,and now IM training to get FAA licenses.
My tt will be around 650 by the time I finish my training,so I need to wait to send my resume.
Do you think they will look at my resume?

nicholasblonde 02-09-2008 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by papacharlie (Post 317401)
If I had to choose I will go with FlightSafety,better training and curriculum,have a couple friends trained a FlightSafety and they were happy.
Could you tell me how did they offer you this job?
Im living in san diego and will like to apply to AE but I have my commercial and instrument from argentina,got a work permit last week,and now IM training to get FAA licenses.
My tt will be around 650 by the time I finish my training,so I need to wait to send my resume.
Do you think they will look at my resume?

They'll look at your resume if you have 50+ multi with that TT. ATP's RJ course gets reimbursed (the full cost) if you accept a class date and pass initial training.

Sbaker1595 02-09-2008 09:10 AM

woah ive never heard of eagle doing that..... im assuming its because of the low multi # ??

nicholasblonde 02-09-2008 09:15 AM

I'm 99% sure it goes "100 multi + RJ course = no TT req." and "50+ multi + RJ course = 400 TT req."

I know this b/c I know people who interviewed at Eagle after they took the RJ course who had 400TT and 50 multi. And they're getting their couse re-imbursed (with an 18 month commitment, of course).

BoilerWings 02-09-2008 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Sbaker1595 (Post 317412)
woah ive never heard of eagle doing that..... im assuming its because of the low multi # ??

It's the low multi time. Another interviewee had 600/200 and he just got a class date without having to do the RJ transition. I was kinda surprised by it too.

The class is not a reimbursable class. Eagle pays for everything up front. I have to pay for food. But travel, lodging and the RJ course is on Eagle's dime.

Sbaker1595 02-09-2008 09:20 AM

well im assuming everyone has heard the rumor of eagle picking up some 200 hour kid with like 10 multi a few weeks ago....hope they are making him take the course too

spartanpilot 02-09-2008 09:22 AM

they also make you sign a 18 month contract for doing the extra training before their training. And I am not entirely sure if they pay you for going to flight safety or RAA.

Paok 02-09-2008 09:24 AM

I heard Eagle is picking people up that are still in college and dont have availability for MONTHS, yet are still getting hired with class to begin in like 4 months........?

Sbaker1595 02-09-2008 09:33 AM

18 month contract?? for a stupid RJ transition course???? what a load of BS!! guess it doesnt really matter when they know your going to be there for at least 3 years before you get sick of waiting for upgrade and decide to go someplace else

PIPErdrvr 02-09-2008 09:33 AM

In our interview class, we had 2 offered the conditional letter on the grounds that they take the RJ course. One had 550/85, the other 400/60. It all falls on the Captains Review Board to make the final decision on who gets hired unconditionally and who gets hired.... well, conditionally. When HR called one of the guys to tell him his file had passed, they told him he would need to attend the RJ course because he hadn't flown in the past two years. So, it could be for many reasons, not just low mult time.

BoilerWings 02-09-2008 09:53 AM

Does anyone know anything about the actual 3 week course? All I can find on the websites are the 7-week courses. I'm just trying to get info on what the curriculum is and what the differences are between RAA and FlightSafety.

nicholasblonde 02-09-2008 12:09 PM

I'm sure it's good training and all, but if you just got up to 500 hrs and then applied to a lot of other places, instead of spending 7 weeks @FSI, then 7 weeks in training at AE, you'd already be on the line after just 7 weeks of training at any other regional...no extra 7 weeks.

BoilerWings 02-09-2008 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by nicholasblonde (Post 317483)
I'm sure it's good training and all, but if you just got up to 500 hrs and then applied to a lot of other places, instead of spending 7 weeks @FSI, then 7 weeks in training at AE, you'd already be on the line after just 7 weeks of training at any other regional...no extra 7 weeks.

Yeah, that's the thing. I don't want to spend 7 extra weeks in training. However, I can justify 3 weeks. The people at Eagle said it was a 3-week course. But I can't find any info on a 3-week course online.

Slice 02-09-2008 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerWings (Post 317487)
Yeah, that's the thing. I don't want to spend 7 extra weeks in training. However, I can justify 3 weeks. The people at Eagle said it was a 3-week course. But I can't find any info on a 3-week course online.

You're times are 550/50. Shouldn't you be able to justify doing whatever they ask of you for the opportunity with such little experience?

BoilerWings 02-09-2008 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Slice (Post 317490)
You're times are 550/50. Shouldn't you be able to justify doing whatever they ask of you for the opportunity with such little experience?

You know what Slice? You're right. I hope I didn't come across as having a bad attitude.

I'm just wondering if anyone has info on the courses. Any personal experiences? How can I best prepare? Etc...

withthatsaid182 02-09-2008 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Paok (Post 317421)
I heard Eagle is picking people up that are still in college and dont have availability for MONTHS, yet are still getting hired with class to begin in like 4 months........?

I interviewed in december and got an offer to start in may...I graduate in may...i ve got about 650 and 70 and am pacing to have like 800 and 120 by may...they never said anything about a 3 week transition course tho

ridejumpfly 02-09-2008 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerWings (Post 317487)
Yeah, that's the thing. I don't want to spend 7 extra weeks in training. However, I can justify 3 weeks. The people at Eagle said it was a 3-week course. But I can't find any info on a 3-week course online.

On Flight safetys website if you search for erj135/145 houston facility they show a 23 day initial course.

Paok 02-09-2008 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by withthatsaid182 (Post 317512)
I interviewed in december and got an offer to start in may...I graduate in may...i ve got about 650 and 70 and am pacing to have like 800 and 120 by may...they never said anything about a 3 week transition course tho

yeah that was my question, I knew they were hiring people with like 6 months til they start, just wanted to confirm that :)

RJ Pilot 02-09-2008 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Sbaker1595 (Post 317426)
18 month contract?? for a stupid RJ transition course???? what a load of BS!! guess it doesnt really matter when they know your going to be there for at least 3 years before you get sick of waiting for upgrade and decide to go someplace else

Beats flying your piston twin doesn't it?:rolleyes:

withthatsaid182 02-09-2008 02:26 PM

i m still gonna call HR this week and make sure that i'm still good to start in may. i'd really hate to find out i have to interview again or something.

Sbaker1595 02-09-2008 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 317548)
Beats flying your piston twin doesn't it?:rolleyes:

humm......lemme think.... $26,000 a year for only about 100 hours of actually flying or $20,000 to fly 800-1000 hours a year...... that piston twin looks kinda good now huh??? :eek:

JoePilot85 02-09-2008 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Sbaker1595 (Post 317588)
humm......lemme think.... $26,000 a year for only about 100 hours of actually flying or $20,000 to fly 800-1000 hours a year...... that piston twin looks kinda good now huh??? :eek:


I've been here at Eagle since March of 07, and i've flown almost 700 hours in the 9 months i've been on the line. I also grossed $25,000 in the 10 months i was here in 2007. Ill make close to $45,000 in 2008 and im averaging 15-17 days off a month. Not so bad :cool:

Slice 02-09-2008 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Sbaker1595 (Post 317588)
humm......lemme think.... $26,000 a year for only about 100 hours of actually flying or $20,000 to fly 800-1000 hours a year...... that piston twin looks kinda good now huh??? :eek:

I'd rather have the guy with a year of single pilot twin time than a guy a few hundred hours or so straight from a pilot mill. You'll learn more in a year as PIC in that twin than you will as a first year RJ FO.

Paok 02-09-2008 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Slice (Post 317598)
I'd rather have the guy with a year of single pilot twin time than a guy a few hundred hours or so straight from a pilot mill. You'll learn more in a year as PIC in that twin than you will as a first year RJ FO.

Who said he is PIC of a piston twin and who said its single pilot.... not sbaker..........:cool: sitting right seat with a pilot flying your dad around sounds more like it and still having only a few hundred hours..... so what would u prefer

Slice 02-09-2008 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Paok (Post 317602)
Who said he is PIC of a piston twin and who said its single pilot.... not sbaker..........:cool: sitting right seat with a pilot flying your dad around sounds more like it and still having only a few hundred hours..... so what would u prefer

In that case neither.

Sbaker1595 02-09-2008 04:15 PM

show me where i can have a part time job while still in college that pays that....... i havent seen any regionals with part time FO jobs recently for college students

P.S. Paok doesnt know what shes talking about.....(x friend i went to college with)


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