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Old 02-14-2008, 11:47 AM   #1  
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What is the policy at your airline regarding your flying activities outside of your full time job? I would like to continue build PIC time when I get that first regional job. (To make me more competitive for a major someday.) Do they feel any differently about club operations (unpaid) than say instructing at an FBO for pay (counting against your 1000per year)? Do your logs get audited or anything? ("What is this 20 hours of instruction given last month?") Or, is it a 'don't ask, don't tell situation? I would not want to loose my airline gig over a stupid side job, but if I can pick up a few extra bucks and/or just log the hours uncompensated it would be nice.

The time was this would not even be an issue, but from what I'm reading a guy might have 2500+ hours one day with only 500pic if they get hired at a regional with low time. The Majors all seem to want that PIC to be over the 1000 hr mark to get the interview, so who knows what they are actualy hiring with.
Anyway thanks for any help you might have to offer. Trying to have any sort of plan on the way up in this business is akin to alpine skiing blind folded.
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:50 AM   #2  
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No "outside commercial flying" at my company.

Who cares if your logs don't get audited. Be a professional. Do what's right because it's the right thing to do. Yes unless you have an accident you can probably get away with it.

Why would you instruct and NOT get paid for it. You are utilizing your certificates for which you paid good money for and sacrificing your time.

PIC in pistons isn't worth squat at the majors unless it's in some big 2 and 4 engine jobs (ie Air Tahoma). Don't waste your time.
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:53 AM   #3  
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you can teach ground though. I know a guy that does CFI renewal ground stuff and he makes some good money on the weekends. He also met a ton of contacts from other mainline type guys that just want to keep the cfi cert.
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10-4. Foster.
As for the "not paid part" I just mean that clubs and some FBOs don't w-2 instructors. Students pay instructors directly with cash. No proof of compensation then.
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A better gig would probably be sim instruction, I know there is an AWAC guy who does some training for ATP's RJ program.
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10-4. Foster.
As for the "not paid part" I just mean that clubs and some FBOs don't w-2 instructors. Students pay instructors directly with cash. No proof of compensation then.
But it's still compensation. If your company allows for outside commercial flying you are fine. If not then it's not allowed. Simple as that.
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Hmmm, Sim instructor couldn't hurt on a resume. CFI clinic idea to network is pretty sweet too...
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Keep in mind that Instruction is NOT considered commercial flying by the FAA.
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Keep in mind that Instruction is NOT considered commercial flying by the FAA.
I assume you are referring to flight instruction, in which case that's bad info. Through various legal interps the FAA has said it is. Also ALPA put out a flight and duty time document that considers instructing a commercial operation. We had a big thread about it on here, I can't find it any more though.
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from what i hear usually if its anything outside of part 91 the answer is no
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