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SmoothOnTop 02-24-2008 03:58 AM

Logging 121 turbine time..
 
The aircraft is the mighty B1900, I am the pic.

If I'm pilot monitoring (or pnf ) I don't log the actual, approaches, night or landings since I'm not manipulating the controls.

I do log the total, multi turbine, cross country and pic.

Does it matter?

saab2000 02-24-2008 04:04 AM

I log all night and all approaches. The airplane is designed for a 2-pilot crew and therefore both pilots participate in the approach. I don't think that matters much anyway.

Otherwise sounds like how I do it. Not that my way is the right way.

ExperimentalAB 02-24-2008 04:17 AM

Yep sounds right...I don't log approaches not flown, although I can see the argument for it. Whatever floats your boat!

UCLAbruins 02-24-2008 04:31 AM

Once you do 3-4 years at the regionals and start looking at the majors/fracs or whatever you want to do; approaches, instrument time, and all that *******t is irrelevant. The companies interviweing you know you have enough, they won't even ask.


I do log it like Saab2000 does

rickair7777 02-24-2008 07:25 AM

Technically you cannot log landings, IMC, or approaches as PNF even if you are the PIC. The regs state that you must be the sole manipulator for those. If do want to log it just for kicks, make sure that you don't rely on PNF landings and approaches for general aviation currency...cuz it doesn't count, not even a little but.

Night, XC, Turbine, ME, Total time is all loggable just by virtue of being a required crewmember.

Zach 02-24-2008 07:57 AM

Why can you log night as pnf, but not imc? They are both conditions of flight.

Lighteningspeed 02-24-2008 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Zach (Post 326567)
Why can you log night as pnf, but not imc? They are both conditions of flight.

Because, technically if you are the PNF you are not shooting the approach and not the sole manipulator of the controls. Try explaining to your next airline interviewer why you think you are justified in logging actual instrument hours when you were the PNF. You can do whatever you want but I only log instrument time when I am the FP. You can log night time ME turbine and X-C time even as a PNF because you are the required crewmwmber of a two pilot team.

freezingflyboy 02-24-2008 08:28 AM

Riddle me this ladies and gents:

When conducting a cat II or monitored approach, do both pilots log the approach? At my company, the FO flies the approach but at DH, if the runway is in sight, the captain takes over and continues the approach to a landing. Both crew members are required and integral for the approach. Both crew members manipulate the controls during the approach. So who gets to log it? Both? The FO? The captain? I know how I do it, I'm just curious how others do it.

pokey9554 02-24-2008 08:32 AM

Log it as dual given, and you'll be fine. That's what it is these days anyway.

Lighteningspeed 02-24-2008 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 326594)
Riddle me this ladies and gents:

When conducting a cat II or monitored approach, do both pilots log the approach? At my company, the FO flies the approach but at DH, if the runway is in sight, the captain takes over and continues the approach to a landing. Both crew members are required and integral for the approach. Both crew members manipulate the controls during the approach. So who gets to log it? Both? The FO? The captain? I know how I do it, I'm just curious how others do it.

How do you do it? We do that at my airline as well and here's what our instructor told us to do it. CAT II apps are done by FOs so they get to log the inst time and the number of apps. CA takes over and lands so he gets credit for landing. CAs do monitor so technically they can also log the apps I guess.


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