Anyone in class at Pinnacle right now?
 

I'm in week 2 at Pinnacle. Just curious if anyone else is on the board.

Hi!

Just look at the cars parked in the lot at the "homeboy". Not many cars means prob not that many folks. You should be able to tell by how busy things are at the CEC.

Sabo- If you have any questions I will be the first to offer up some help. I know the training dept leaves some to be desired.

410 club???

Low blow.....

So how is the ole Homestead these days? How many are in your class?

I just started week 3. See ya in the ol' Corporate Training Center.

One of my best friends from the Navy walked out of their training just before the checkride (three others walked out with him). He was going to be a quick upgrade to captain right after the IOE (he 20 yrs in the Navy and over 4,500 hrs). He said it was the worst training and the most unprofessional aviation experience he's had. He would of rather sat right seat at a good company then fly as a captain with PNCL. Some of the guys were good, but he said some of the pilots were the bottom of the barrel and he wouldn't want is family flying on the planes with the experience he had with them. Looks like a good opportunity though for quick PIC time.

I on the other hand know several pilots at 9E I would trust with my life with any day--former corporate G5 pilot, military and 135 guys there for upgrade, and a few marines who take their job extremely seriously...

There are bad apples at every operation on Earth. The system is imperfect everywhere. PLUS--your buddy didn't stick around long enough to actually see if those "bad apples" passed the checkride--which most of them probably didn't.

Honestly, I trust 9E a whole lot more than many other regionals b/c of what you just said--many many of our FOs are very high time, and very experienced pilots here for the fast upgrades...I'd trust a guy w/1000TT and 500 SIC turbine over a CFI with 800 hrs 172 time in the right seat...wouldn't you?

Why was your 4500+ Navy guy at a regional in the first place? Why didn't he get on with a major? And was that the reason he walked out of school--he got hired elsewhere?

Sounds like he had some issues with his training.
Ground school is a joke. However, in the sims its a different story.
Why would he go through all the way through then quit? I don't care if he had 4,500 hours. I've seen people with 6000+ hours struggle in their initial 121 training.

I've seen lots of people wash out, most make excuses exactly like your buddy did.

Pinnacle is a dump. Its a sinking ship. Nobody should have to deal with such a horribly ran company.

New Guys: Don't drink the kool aid they feed you at Noncaring BLVD. You'll turn into an angry person after you've been on line a few months.

yeah i don't buy to much of this story since we have everything from fighter pilots to jet u guys here, and everything in between. if he quit it was either he got another job somewhere else or wasn't performing good as a crew member and saw that he was about to get the axe. ask the f-16 guys how hard it is to come into the airlines and have to communicate with someone else and make decisions using other peoples experience in their decision. not saying your friend isn't a good pilot, but do you honestly think he is the only military guy here?? and if this is his first airline to come to he will really be suprised when he sees how different military training is from airline training.

absolutley. i have flown with some excellent captains that i have learned a lot from. from some gulf stream guys to old b-52 bomber pilots. almost all of them have given me some great advice and taught me things i didn't know.

hahahaha.. easy man. i have been here a little more than 2.5 years and im not angry.. infact i am not at work enough to be angry! but yeah, things need to change and they need to change quick. i honestly think they will. our negotiating team sounded very optimistic on the conference call last night and i think we will start to see some movement soon.

I'm going to guess you live in MEM?

Well, I'm not staying at the Homestead. I just moved in with my girlfriend who has an apartment just east of Memphis. Everything just worked out perfectly that way. We've only got 3, plus one guy who got held back a week for illness.

So you were in my CRM class today! Hello.

I think it's funny that you're classifying the 1000TT FO as "high time." You're using 1000TT and 500 SIC turbine as an example of somebody you'd prefer to fly with, yet this same pilot must have been fresh out of a 172 with 500 hours at some point!

We have a corporate policy - No Pinnacale Flights!

good, i wouldn't fly on pinnacale either,, sounds like an airline in south america. pinnacle on the other hand is fine to fly on,, thousands of fed ex pilots think we do a pretty good job.

ps... i sure hope you weren't the guy in the lear a couple months ago who took off on taxi way mike over one of our crj's in memphis

those bright green lights must have confused him.

What's worse?? Taking off or landings on a taxi-way

There's nothing wrong with this.






(If you're flying a helicopter.)

Or in a Lear jet, apparently.

Arent you guys ready to strike?

Hmmm. I think I've seen this recurring message before. Gotta laugh with the constant pinnacle positivity by a very few. Must plan on being there for a while.

Yea it takes about 1-2 years to upgrade, another year for the thousand PIC and the resume sending process. Some have connections and leave, others stay for a few more years and leave. Folks here normally don't stay longer than 3-4 years. If you consider that a while.. then your answer is Yes... guys here 5-7 years are quite "senior".

Hope you get that tongue in cheek sarcasm..

Ken are you getting bored with airlinkpilots.com?
Are you even off of probation yet?

No...your friend walked becasue he was going to fail his checkride...he was not prepared.

And, no offense, but unless the dude was a rotorhead, any Navy pilot with 4500 hours who took a job at 9E (and not SWA, CAL, DAL, and the list goes on) obviously had other issues going on in his life than 9E's training dept..

No..

500 hours in an FMS equipped glass cockpit airplane can make someone very profficient at programming the FMS, turning the AP on at 1000' and turning the AP off at 200'. If these pilots turn off the AP and standby the FD every now and again and fly some holds and approaches from enroute descent to the runway then maybe there is some correlation.