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Originally Posted by cl601pilot
(Post 335939)
Colgan is hiring.
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I know that I would never want to be the sole survivor of a crash that I had some part in. Lousy controller, poor runway layout, taxiway/runway markings etc. etc...these are all mitigating factors and they all played just a big a part as not verifying runway heading prior to departure. Mistakes happen and when they do, you have to deal with the consequences. I hope he makes a speedy recovery and gets back into the cockpit. That being said, I highly doubt he'll ever see the cockpit of a 121 carrier as a required crew member ever again. You cannot deny that he must accept part of the responsibility for this crash. After all, it was the crew that pushed the thrust levers forward that morning, not anyone else.
No one on here is perfect. I guarantee everyone on here has broken a reg, talked during sterile cockpit, blasted off without synching the heading bug, etc. etc. Everyone on here is lucky though because when we did all those things, it did not cause a fatal accident. When it does, I do not think it's realistic to expect a return to passenger flying for a 121 carrier. It doesn't mean I'm not pulling for the guy...I just don't see it happening. |
I believe that if I were to crash it would be for something utterly stupid.
Wrong DME selected for an appproach, or mistaking a "postion and hold" call for "cleared for T/O". In my eyes it's these everyday, mudane items that would be expected from a student pilot. These small obvious items that lurk in the background waiting for a chance to present itself. |
Yes the pilots did make a mistake. However there were other factors...lights being inop, the pilots did not recieve the notam. Construction that was not notamed. Etc. Would you of made the same mistake? No one can say for sure that they would not have.
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Originally Posted by The Juice
(Post 335945)
I would love to see how much money is being spent on the baseball hearings. All the issues we have and look and what we are doing, seems like a huge waste of resources to me.
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Originally Posted by The Juice
(Post 335921)
I think my point is understanding the great responsibiity we have with our passengers. If a doctor messes up he only risks the life of one, pilots risk the life of many.
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Originally Posted by cessna126
(Post 336059)
Yes the pilots did make a mistake. However there were other factors...lights being inop, the pilots did not recieve the notam. Construction that was not notamed. Etc. Would you of made the same mistake? No one can say for sure that they would not have.
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Originally Posted by Sbaker1595
(Post 336091)
good point... i was at LEX about 3 weeks before the crash and the runways are very confusing at the end they were at.....it was the middle of the day and i had to double check the airport diagram twice to make shure.... anyone could have made that mistake after becoming complacent..... gotta have sympathy for this guy....hope he gets back into aviation if thats what he wants to do
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Originally Posted by Diver Driver
(Post 336097)
We occasionally have some of our skydiving planes in and out of Lex, I encountered the same thing you did about a week prior to the accident ferrying one over to Frankfort. I can see how easy it was for them to make this mistake...
right on man....i was watching cnn when the first report of the crash came in.....when they showed the diagram of where the plane impacted in relation to the airport i knew exactly what happened well before the cause of the crash was reported....a truly sick feeling knowing i could have easily done the same:eek: |
Originally Posted by cessna126
(Post 336059)
Yes the pilots did make a mistake. However there were other factors...lights being inop, the pilots did not recieve the notam. Construction that was not notamed. Etc. Would you of made the same mistake? No one can say for sure that they would not have.
At the end of the day, there was a variety of factors contributing to this accident. Some of it was the controller. Some of it was the airport. However, you can't really count out the pilot factor here. After all, the controller and the airport weren't sitting at the controls. |
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