PSA CRJ HGS Sys CAT II / III
 

For PSA folks..
Are the 200's or 700's equipped with the head up guidance system and if so are the aircraft / crews CAT qualified?
Thanks.

Two words: no

is this a serious question??

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Yes... just wondering how bad you guys want to get into a station.

What is the other word?

How bad those pilots want to get into an airport does not have anything to do with the money a company needs to shell out to get all their aircraft and crews certified for Cat II and Cat III approaches. I wont even get into the HUD's!

I could be wrong, but I dont know any CRJ's or ERJ's that have the autopilots you need to get certified for CAT III approaches. That is why I asked if it was a serious quesiton. Im not even at PSA.

Hgs
 

I don't know any of the RJ's that have a HGS but we have the box for them in our planes but they are empty. No electronics in them. I don't know if the company just wanted to have a reason to have less headroom in the cockpit or if they are actually thinking about installing the Heads up displays....I guess only time will tell.

Years ago, I worked at a carrier flying tired 737-300's (all hardball instrumentation). We did go to the expense of installing an HGS system. Our mechs, crews and aircraft were certified CAT IIIA. The system really saved our schedule,,, particularly SLC.
As for the CRJ, I don't know much about the autopilot/FCC's, but dual channels in a dual FCC installation will get you close to the requirements for CAT 3B.

Just curious as to why you'd single out PSA and even think that CRJs flying for a US regional airline would have that type of equipment? Not that I wouldn't want it, it'd be great, but it just seems such an odd question.

Who cares what regional he picked out, he is probably just trying to find which regional will make him most like top gun, and PSA is probably on top of his list!

Just wondering... I have been out of the pax business for a long time and honestly I don't know much about the commuter ops and equipment.

Yeah. Good ol' Bluestreak!

He's probing for information, alert the DHS.

Hey Airwaves,

Is it true that Blink 182 is getting back together after their "indefinite hiatus"?

I don't keep that close of an eye on em, be cool if they did, and didn't sound like ****!



Google says after this current A&A tour, they are.

Yeah, definitely a studio band. They are terrible live.

Well we all can't be Ronnie Van Zant's 8)

Horizon uses HGS's on all their planes. They are equipped and certified for cat. III approaches. Now apologize to MD11 for being jerks.

Thanks UNDGUY,,, no apology needed from them. I did get the information needed.

Yeah, what he said.

Horizon does CATIII. CRJ700/Q200/Q400.

Awesome, I did not know Horizon is Cat. III. Learn something new every day.

Horizon has HGS in all of our planes, including CRJ700s. We are certified to CATIIIA mins, but it has nothing to do with the autopilot, as these are handflown. Works great, by the way, although we often wonder if it is really worth the money, since it isn't all that often that you really use it down to the bare mins.

Whoops, I added that response without even reading the second page of the thread! Sorry- dumbass here...

That's one word :p

Actually, it's three!:D

Yes, the Horizon fleet is well equipped for the amount of actual "down to minimums" approaches. We have a box where the field elevation/runway length is entered to provide the captain "flare symbology" on the HGS(flight dynamics). We have to have all 3 nav's tuned to the localizer(at least in the Q400). Also included is Inertial Navigation System. That's the only type of equipment we have.

The Q400 and the CRJ are both certified for Single-Engine CAT IIIa operations. This provides a lot of relief when planning for T/O alternates.

Most of the approaches are 50' MDA/600 RVR. Takeoff minimums with CAT III capabilities allows for as little as 300 RVR.

And that's all I know.

Thanks to all that contributed good, useful information.
To the others such as "unlimitedakro", rjtrashpilot and "airwaves",,, you may want to evaluate whether or not using this forum is a good thing. If your future employers (major airlines?) could know your true inner self, ignorant and immature, that would make room for those of us that really care about learning all they can about aviation. Unfortunately, airlines put more value on if you are a college graduate rather than if you are emotionally mature.
I do not have a degree but I have spent the last 24 years learning all that I can about aviation. In addition to my Comm tickets, I have a CFII, A&P, IA and an Aircraft Dispatchers ticket. Those listed above would probably not have been willing to shovel horse sh*t (literally) as I was to pay for my private ticket.
So I challenge those listed above,, you had the courage to post on this forum, do you have the courage to tell us your names?
My guess is no.

Even though its not a regional, Jet blue's E-190s also have HGSs in them...

quoted from APC "E190s have dual HUDs installed"

Hold your thumb from your index finger about one inch.






That's how much anybody cares.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Horizon Air's CRJs are Cat III certified with the HGS.


Edit: oops, never mind. Next time I'll read the whole thread before responding!

Yea real mature.... What are we? 12?

The Q400 and the CRJ are both certified for Single-Engine CAT IIIa operations. This provides a lot of relief when planning for T/O alternates.

Do you ever notice that most of the time we are still dispatched with T/O alternates anyways. Gives me alot of confidence in dispatch sometimes.

I'd have to research that a little more, but I think KSUN may have some special rules regarding T/O alternates like requiring one even when we don't need one.


Could that be what you're thinking of?

NWM Self edit.

The reason they put a T/O alternate anyway is because most pilots will call back wanting one anyway. It just saves the need to call.

Makes sense. Just because we are single engine CAT III cetified doesnt mean I want to do it if I can avoid it.