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afxarmed 03-09-2008 03:56 PM

Comair / ASA
 
Thinking about making a move to either one?

Which one has "better" qualities? Bases isnt a problem since I live in Miami.

I dont quite meet the mins for Comair but I do have 121 SIC experience, any chance they might lower them for the experience? If not ASA will do but regardless gotta compare the two....any feedback is good.

Thanks AFX Armed

CRJDriver 03-09-2008 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by afxarmed (Post 337212)

I dont quite meet the mins for Comair but I do have 121 SIC experience, any chance they might lower them for the experience? If not ASA will do but regardless gotta compare the two....any feedback is good.

Thanks AFX Armed

Let me get this straight. You fly for a 121 regional right now, you don't meet Comair Mins (600TT/100ME) or ASA Mins (500TT/50ME) and you are looking to jump ship? Who do you work for now? Mesa? Piedmont?

GrUpGrDn 03-09-2008 04:01 PM

Put your app in, they have hired with 250 total. He is an All ATP graduate and has done very well. CVG Base may be difficult having to commute through atl.

afxarmed 03-09-2008 04:03 PM

No I got the ASA mins but not the 600 that comair wants, and I havent done the ATP written.
currently at 515ish.

Paok 03-09-2008 04:05 PM

You are probably fine at Comair, I got hired with 580 TT and 58 multi...all cfi, no 121 time.... I like it a lot here, life has gotten a lot better with a little senority

CRJDriver 03-09-2008 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by afxarmed (Post 337219)
No I got the ASA mins but not the 600 that comair wants, and I havent done the ATP written.
currently at 515ish.

I think we have hired some guys below <600 TT here at Comair that came from the "Academy", Delta Connection Academy I should say not Air Force Academy:rolleyes: Put your stuff in, but I'd think twice about coming to work for Comair.

afxarmed 03-09-2008 04:10 PM

Whats the downside at Comair, I knew some stuff with upgrade was going around but anything to add? I would prefer Comair since I got family in the JFK area so the reserve issue wont be a problem, I wanted to know if the -200 guys cross fly the planes or whoever is on the -200 only -200/100 and 700/900 or all mixed?

CRJDriver 03-09-2008 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by afxarmed (Post 337227)
Whats the downside at Comair, I knew some stuff with upgrade was going around but anything to add? I would prefer Comair since I got family in the JFK area so the reserve issue wont be a problem, I wanted to know if the -200 guys cross fly the planes or whoever is on the -200 only -200/100 and 700/900 or all mixed?

No, if you are on the -200, you only fly the -200 out of CVG or JFK base. If you are on the 700/900 you only fly those out of CVG base. So, if you want to be JFK based you'll only fly the -200. Look's like it takes about a year or so to get the 70/90, but you'll have to go to CVG.

afxarmed 03-09-2008 04:16 PM

Whats the chance of landing either?
Which flying is better? I know the 7/9 got the better cockpits and whatnot but I mean sched wise and the like.....I got a good buddy of mine who was a CFI in Comair outta JFK but I havent been able to contact him to see whats going on out there.

JustaRampagent 03-09-2008 04:19 PM

stay aways from comair...My good buddy is about to make a year in comair and he has only flown about 260 hours in the CRJ! he wants to jump ship but he think about the second year pay. he based out of JFK and still doesn't have a line yet.

CRJDriver 03-09-2008 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by afxarmed (Post 337227)
Whats the downside at Comair, I knew some stuff with upgrade was going around but anything to add?

Long reserve (~1+ year), long upgrade (~5.5 years), Loosing about 14 -200s this year....

Read the 'big' Comair thread, you'll find a lot of information. It's like a freakin' book:D

GrUpGrDn 03-09-2008 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by JustaRampagent (Post 337235)
stay aways from comair...My good buddy is about to make a year in comair and he has only flown about 260 hours in the CRJ! he wants to jump ship but he think about the second year pay. he based out of JFK and still doesn't have a line yet.

Glad I got out of JFK in Sept, based there a month and flew a 4 day worth 4:57, since Oct 1 in cvg, over 330 hours, must be the base.

CRJDriver 03-09-2008 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by GrUpGrDn (Post 337238)
Glad I got out of JFK in Sept, based there a month and flew a 4 day worth 4:57, since Oct 1 in cvg, over 330 hours, must be the base.

That's 'cause JFK ain't a base, it's a transfer station:p

joshua 03-09-2008 04:27 PM

So, if you had to make a choice, out of the two, would you say Comair or ASA? I think ASA is all out of ATL, which I would think is better than JFK, not sure about CVG.

GrUpGrDn 03-09-2008 04:29 PM

Never worked for ASA cannot make an informed opinion.

Deez340 03-09-2008 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by afxarmed (Post 337212)
Thinking about making a move to either one?

Which one has "better" qualities? Bases isnt a problem since I live in Miami.

I dont quite meet the mins for Comair but I do have 121 SIC experience, any chance they might lower them for the experience? If not ASA will do but regardless gotta compare the two....any feedback is good.

Thanks AFX Armed

Smells like someone payed a lot of money to play airline at Gulfstream. How's my aim?

It's all a crap shoot, but given how things are today, go to ASA.

flycrj200 03-09-2008 04:52 PM

:DGuys, we need more people at Comair. The more people below us the better for us. Go to Comair dude, it's great here.:D

ComairFO 03-09-2008 05:06 PM

Go wherever you will get the better QOL................and only YOU can make that decision.

Diver Driver 03-09-2008 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by JustaRampagent (Post 337235)
stay aways from comair...My good buddy is about to make a year in comair and he has only flown about 260 hours in the CRJ! he wants to jump ship but he think about the second year pay. he based out of JFK and still doesn't have a line yet.

Ive been flying on reserve at Comair since November and already have about 300 hours in the jet. I've only bid to fly one month so far. I'm CVG Based so i guess the basing has a lot to do with it, I hear the JFK guys are sitting a lot.

Paok 03-09-2008 06:34 PM

If you can live in base (jfk) then go to a place you can live in base......... comair is not that bad.....ecspec if you can live in base....otherwse enjoy commuting to atl

cubflyer 03-09-2008 10:30 PM

ASA is likely your best bet. HOWEVER, most new hires are going to the CRJ700 where the reserve will run you at least 1 year. The CRJ200 will give you better QOL if you are senior enough in you class to get it. If so, expect to be on reserve for 2-3 months. After that, you will rack up about 80 hours of block time per month. You will probably have an easier commute from MIA to ATL. Good luck!

JT8D 04-09-2008 01:38 PM

Is Comair sticking to their ATP written requirement or are they hiring people without it?

cessna157 04-09-2008 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by JT8D (Post 359434)
Is Comair sticking to their ATP written requirement or are they hiring people without it?

A year and a half ago they were not requiring the ATP. But hiring has slowed greatly, and the market has a few more pilots to choose from, so they might have brought it back.

CRJDriver 04-09-2008 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by JT8D (Post 359434)
Is Comair sticking to their ATP written requirement or are they hiring people without it?

They say it is required and you have to have it before you start ground school. I never got asked for it. Nobody every looked at it or made a copy of it.

The Chow 04-09-2008 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by CRJDriver (Post 359454)
They say it is required and you have to have it before you start ground school. I never got asked for it. Nobody every looked at it or made a copy of it.


They looked at and made a copy of mine at the interview. I have no idea what happens with it next.

As far as ASA or Comair, realize this, many people think the regionals are just a stepping stone to something better. And for many people that has held true, but the way things are going, you should also look at the "what if" I'm here for a very long time.

Also....if you plan to try and move on to Big D....it will be much more difficult coming from Comair......

SuperPilotJesse 04-09-2008 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by JT8D (Post 359434)
Is Comair sticking to their ATP written requirement or are they hiring people without it?

I start class 4.21 and it was a non-issue that I haven't taken it... They didn't even say that I needed to anytime soon.


Originally Posted by The Chow (Post 359472)
Also....if you plan to try and move on to Big D....it will be much more difficult coming from Comair......

Care to explain why that is?

CRJDriver 04-09-2008 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by The Chow (Post 359472)

Also....if you plan to try and move on to Big D....it will be much more difficult coming from Comair......

Actually, I've heard DL has picked up some people from OH that haven't been around during the strike.

SuperPilotJesse 04-09-2008 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by CRJDriver (Post 359494)
Actually, I've heard DL has picked up some people from OH that haven't been around during the strike.

Oh! Because the whole strike thing... that's dumb, especially if you started post strike.

andy171773 04-09-2008 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by CRJDriver (Post 359494)
Actually, I've heard DL has picked up some people from OH that haven't been around during the strike.

This is a fact

The Chow 04-09-2008 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by CRJDriver (Post 359494)
Actually, I've heard DL has picked up some people from OH that haven't been around during the strike.


I know some have been hired but ASA has about a 10:1 ratio. Both companies seem to be losing just as many pilots per month.

Just something to consider if DL is the ultimate dream for the origninal poster.

Diver Driver 04-09-2008 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by CRJDriver (Post 359494)
Actually, I've heard DL has picked up some people from OH that haven't been around during the strike.

From what I've heard, aside from the strike, the RJDC isn't making us look any better to many DL folks...

flyingkangaroo 04-09-2008 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by cubflyer (Post 337451)
ASA is likely your best bet. HOWEVER, most new hires are going to the CRJ700 where the reserve will run you at least 1 year. The CRJ200 will give you better QOL if you are senior enough in you class to get it. If so, expect to be on reserve for 2-3 months. After that, you will rack up about 80 hours of block time per month. You will probably have an easier commute from MIA to ATL. Good luck!

Ehhhhhhhhhhh no, 10 month guys are still sitting reserve on the 200. ATR Fo's are frozen untill august so guys will be on reserve there for over a year assuming they don't add more lines. Unless we get more jets all A/C will be around a year to hold a line. I have heard that the 700 reserve FO's get alot of flying.

Don't forget they cancelled the last prelimnary awards and we don't know when they will be upgrading again. isn't industry wide stagnation awesome!

mregan 04-10-2008 12:39 PM

That is correct , I am in my 9th month here at ASA , on the 200 , and I am still about 40 numbers from holding a line, onn reserve , i only flew 42 hours last month, and that is on short call....all aircraft esp. with the ATRs leaving, will be about a year on reserve as it stands now, however it could change fast and be shorter, when i first started it was 1-2 mo. rsv on the 200 , and now its like a 10-12mo rsv. I I have had a good experience here at ASA thus far, and i commute (from BOS) , I have friends at Comair who ve been there 3+ years and now upgrade in sight, they are looking to go elsewhere currently, but do whatever makes you have the best QOL. I do know that they South Florida commute to ATL can be VERY tough. good luck in your decision!


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