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-   -   SkyWest to furlough? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/23667-skywest-furlough.html)

Justdoinmyjob 03-15-2008 01:16 PM
Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 341364)
In over 35 years SKW has never furloughed. What about your company?
Well, lets see... Delta went 60 something years before furloughing the first time in the 90's. I guess it just gets easier the 2nd/3rd time. Never say Never.

Lighteningspeed 03-15-2008 01:19 PM
Originally Posted by POPA (Post 341371)
You're right, it's much better to pick fights in the Majors forum and challenge other users' academic credentials.
Read the entire entries before jumping the gun. Nipping is not called for.

Lighteningspeed 03-15-2008 01:22 PM
Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 341372)
Well, lets see... Delta went 60 something years before furloughing the first time in the 90's. I guess it just gets easier the 2nd/3rd time. Never say Never.
Agree. It seems premature to be talking about furloughs, though.

JetJock16 03-15-2008 01:26 PM
Originally Posted by POPA (Post 341368)
Yes, RAH has furloughed. Management is contractually obligated to furlough pilots instead of just kicking them to the curb. Is there anything that forces SKW to do the same? The "we've never done it before" argument doesn't really hold water, as I'm more interested in something concrete.
Originally Posted by Deez340 (Post 341370)
Neither has ASA but I wouldn't be feeling warm and fuzzy if I was a new hire there either. Although, an ASA furloughee would have recall rights in writing.
I understand you argument and I wanted a union here for many reasons, this one included. But our Mgmnt team sticks to our agreement, if they don't then there will be a union on property shortly afterwards. Jerry and friends will do anything to keep us union free including not detour from our agreement. That’s a small price to pay for increased savings down the road. Mark my words, they will stay the course.

meritflyer 03-15-2008 01:26 PM
Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 341305)
If I were you merit I would worry more about your airline with its 270 overpriced 50 seaters not skywest.
If I get the axe, big deal. That's aviation. Get on with life and stop crying.

PS It's 274 overpriced 50 seaters.

meritflyer 03-15-2008 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by fatmike69 (Post 341314)
Was just in SLC for my PC check and yes I think they are considering it. It was a hot discussion item among the sim instructors that day. Apparently R.W. is holding fast right now to not furlough anyone, as he doesn't want it to happen on his watch. However, if cutbacks keep coming, we'll all have to hold our breath. Just look at how many reserve lines there are for the next month among the major bases (especially SLC). We are way overstaffed. Typically it picks up again in the summertime, but who knows right now. We just lost Bellingham and Bismark I think on the Delta side.....
Wow.. Maybe Meritflyer was not BS'ing here.

JetJock16 03-15-2008 01:31 PM
Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 341372)
Well, lets see... Delta went 60 something years before furloughing the first time in the 90's. I guess it just gets easier the 2nd/3rd time. Never say Never.
I mean you offense but can you read. Where did I say NEVER! I'll help; here are my postings without the water:

Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 341356)
To think that SKW will never furlough is ridiculous……………….

You can rest assure they’ll do the number crunching and they’ll do what's best for the company…………..
Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 341364)
I'm not saying it won’t happen but they've looked out for their pilots more than any other regional airline has.

JetJock16 03-15-2008 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by meritflyer (Post 341387)
JetJock, seriously dude...

Looked out for their pilots? Right.. just like the recent pay schedule.

ExpressJet has never furloughed. Continental Express did when owned by CAL if you want to get technical. If XJT did, BIG F'n DEAL!!!
I'm not going to defend it but just look at it. Do we have to be near (near meaning with in $1 or 2) the top in TOTAL compensation? No but they do it anyway. We could be the HIGHEST paid but we’ve argued that and I can safely say the horse is dead.

Also I'm in no threat of being furloughed. They'd have to cut our RJ's by over 140 just for me to sweat, and if they did furlough me, bid deal, I can afford an extra long vacation.

The only problem is that 99% of the other pilots don’t have my kind of financial flexibility/freedom.

Airsupport 03-15-2008 01:53 PM
Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 341366)
In over 35 years SKW has never furloughed, that should tell you something and it should help you breathe a little better.
i posted this on another thread but this statement is not true. i personally know several people who were hired at skywest, 6 guys to be exact, that had passed their checkrides and were on the bro when 9/11 hit. they were sent packing and all came back to my school their in slc and were re hired as instructors till they were called to go back. i should know since the took a few of my students. it was 6 weeks before they were called back.

of course 9/11 was a different story than what we are dealing with now, but the fact remains they were hired and on the line when they were told to go back home and they would be called back later.

wmarti31 03-15-2008 02:30 PM
Originally Posted by Roper92 (Post 341333)
In the meantime, what is driving oil up this high?? Don't give me that supply and demand BS..
Although the oil price keeps increasing, the U.S. $ keeps loosing its value while Euro and other world currencies increase their value.


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