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Spooled 03-18-2008 08:07 PM

Pinnacle Scope Update
 
Well we received word that the company is refusing to meet with the union. I cannot believe what management is doing.

For those looking to come to Pinnacle. Please go elsewhere and save yourself the HEADACHE. Nothing is frustration at this place.

"Award of the the Pinnacle Airlines – ALPA System Board of Adjustment
MEC Group Grievance No. 07-14

1.) The acquisition of Colgan Air by PNCL [Pinnacle Holdings] was a “transaction which will of may result in the acquisition of another airlines by the Company or the consolidation of the Company with another airline”, within the meaning of that quoted phrase from Section 1.F.2 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

2.) The Company did violate Section 1.F.2 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement when it declined ALPA’s April 2, 2007 request to meet promptly to negotiate an appropriate “fence agreement”.

3.) As a remedy for the proven violation, the Company is directed to comply with the mandates of CBA [Collective Bargaining Agreement] Section 1.F.2.

4.) The SBA [System Board of Adjustment] retains jurisdiction for the sole purpose of resolving any disputes which may arise between the Parties regarding the application or interpretation of that remedy.

- Dana Edwin Eischen, Impartial Arbitrator and Chairman of the System Board of Adjustment"


Last week your MEC sent a letter to the Company (both Airlines and Holdings) requesting to meet and follow through with the Arbitrator’s instructions. Today, we received a response from the Company indicating that they believe the arbitrator had no jurisdiction over the Holding company and that the Holding Company is refusing to meet with us.

PinnacleFO 03-19-2008 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Spooled (Post 343633)
Well we received word that the company is refusing to meet with the union. I cannot believe what management is doing.

For those looking to come to Pinnacle. Please go elsewhere and save yourself the HEADACHE. Nothing is frustration at this place.

"Award of the the Pinnacle Airlines – ALPA System Board of Adjustment
MEC Group Grievance No. 07-14

1.) The acquisition of Colgan Air by PNCL [Pinnacle Holdings] was a “transaction which will of may result in the acquisition of another airlines by the Company or the consolidation of the Company with another airline”, within the meaning of that quoted phrase from Section 1.F.2 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

2.) The Company did violate Section 1.F.2 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement when it declined ALPA’s April 2, 2007 request to meet promptly to negotiate an appropriate “fence agreement”.

3.) As a remedy for the proven violation, the Company is directed to comply with the mandates of CBA [Collective Bargaining Agreement] Section 1.F.2.

4.) The SBA [System Board of Adjustment] retains jurisdiction for the sole purpose of resolving any disputes which may arise between the Parties regarding the application or interpretation of that remedy.

- Dana Edwin Eischen, Impartial Arbitrator and Chairman of the System Board of Adjustment"


Last week your MEC sent a letter to the Company (both Airlines and Holdings) requesting to meet and follow through with the Arbitrator’s instructions. Today, we received a response from the Company indicating that they believe the arbitrator had no jurisdiction over the Holding company and that the Holding Company is refusing to meet with us.

In other words, Pinnacle is greater than the law. I think we should settle this with Judge Judy

The Juice 03-19-2008 07:22 AM

I said in the previous thread that PNCL would not just accept this and do what the arbitrator said. Everyone was like "oh, they have to do what the arbitrator says...it is binding." The scope ruling is going to take a long time to get settled.

For the PNCL guys and ALPA. The most important thing right now is a new contract for you. I could be selfish and wish you do not get a new contract till after the merger so it is our contract too but that is not right.

You have been dealing with this for too long. You will never get strike authorization with the current administration but you should be getting creative on ways to get your voice hear, it is cold season afterall.

Airsupport 03-19-2008 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 343794)
I said in the previous thread that PNCL would not just accept this and do what the arbitrator said. Everyone was like "oh, they have to do what the arbitrator says...it is binding." The scope ruling is going to take a long time to get settled.

For the PNCL guys and ALPA. The most important thing right now is a new contract for you. I could be selfish and wish you do not get a new contract till after the merger so it is our contract too but that is not right.

You have been dealing with this for too long. You will never get strike authorization with the current administration but you should be getting creative on ways to get your voice hear, it is cold season afterall.

i don't know. you tell the arbitrator to go pound sand and that they will ignore his ruling is pretty big deal. you through that in with them not negotiating in good faith and making our mediator mad, and i think we might have a chance at being released. i am keeping my fingers crossed. i wrote on another board that i think we will have this all wrapped up by the end of this year. we will either have a contract and everything will be fine, or we will have shut the place down. i think things have come to a head now, and there are only a few options left to make this drag on any more than it has.


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