ASA has stopped hiring...
 

Ok, I guess its official, they have stopped hiring...

Bummer...

Anybody has any more info from inside about this? Only stopped through april?

Thanks...

Where did you find this? According to one of my buddies they are coming to the career fair at UND specifically to hire

Someone I know got hired an hour ago. No class though...

into the pool u go................

Just spoke with a bud who is doing IOE at ASA..... it is his understanding that those with class dates are okay... but the rest .... well..... limbo.

According to the memo instead of 40 a month in class dropping to 10

This very well may be true... I interviewed last wed-thursday and at the end was told "you have been accepted, congrats" all that stuff... And yesterday I got "THE NO LETTER" from them... I called them today to find out if this had been a mistake, and they said it was management's decision. I had made a mention that the letter said I did something in the interview or sim and told him that the person interviewing told me both were great. He proceeded to get mad at me and tell me he didnt want to argue with me and couldnt tell me why I got the NO.

There was absolutely no reason for me to get a no as I did really well in all aspects of the interview. Aside from it being a HUGE shot to my confidence (feeling that I did something wrong), my only guess is that they have stopped for now.... :mad:

You can do great in both, but DR and the systems chief have to sign off on your being hired ontop of the people interviewing you.

yes I knew that, but I didnt even have a chance to meet DR. He was unavailable the day of my interview. And the letter I received said "you were unsatisfactory on either the sim portion or the interview portion". Obviously the interview portion was good cause I made it to the sim, and I spoke with the sim evaluator afterwards and he said I did really well.

I am not upset that they didnt hire me, im just upset with the fact that the letter makes me feel like I did something wrong when I know I didnt. I just feel thats bad business....

Stryker: apply in another 6 months? :P

I was told after interviewing that they are not assigning anymore start dates. Was further told that I would probably be placed in a pool.

anbody know how the "pool" works? They pumped my hand and everything, but really couldn't tell me much else, althought they seemed sincere in thinking I'd be given a class date in the not too distant future. Are you still competitive within in the pool i.e. more qualified pilots first, or is it by the date of successful interview?

Jenny called me today to say she was sorry that they where so late in sending my new-hire packet.
I asked her when they where going to run the next class and she told me that she had no idea when they would begin again, and that she hears something different about it everyday.
My class on the 31st is going to be the smallest group they have had with only 10 people. I was really looking forward to some other classes starting after mine to at least give me a lil seniority:o. So much for hiring 500 pilots this year:(.

I've been here at ASA and in the airline industry for all of 5-6 weeks and am no expert. I hope I'm never an expert.

I don't want to get sucked into the endless worrying, anticipating, expecting, rumor-mongering, speculating, guessing and just general angst that seems to go along with trying to figure out how it's all going to work out.

All of that, and you're wrong most of the time anyway.

Come to class. Study. Apply yourself. Take the step that's in front of you right now.

The history of airlines since deregulation has been seniority lists that start and stop and move rapidly or not at all and everything in between.

None of that's changed now that it's me on their conveyor belt.

I'm right there with you at the bottom of a seniority list in a volatile industry at an uncertain time <shrug>. So, I'm going to show up each day and do what's in front of me as well as I can and stay focused on how great it is to be where I am!

I'm glad you made it into the 3/31 class! They do a good job with the training, this is a really positive company to work for, Atlanta is a great city to be in...life is good!

Let me know if you need anything leading up to class, I've got a pretty good little collection of study materials collected here.


I know it's difficult and blow to your confidence and everything, I've been there.

Will you follow up on this in a few months and let us know how it worked out? I'm going to predict that you shake this off and wind up at a much better job for you.

Really in all honesty I'm not worried. I'm gonna come to class with none of whats going on in the buisness in my mind at all. Is there anything I should be studying prior to showing up? Anything you wish you would have studied or prepared for prior to class?

You'll have to make an effort not to get pulled into it by others.

I've made a decision to just ignore all the crap I don't have any control over anyway...makes it much easier to have a tension free day.

Nope. They give you absolutely everything you need to succeed and make it easy. Just come ready to work hard and you'll be fine.

Let me know when you get your training hotel info, I'll look forward to seeing you here in a few weeks!

Welcome to my hell at XJT. I started class in early September and I'm still ~40 from the bottom...

I wouldn't worry about being at the bottom of the list. This whole slow down seems more like a stagnation rather than a complete reduction/furlough period. I'd be willing to bet that your job is safe for now (unless something else happens). The only thing to worry about is QOL. People hired behind you doesn't help QOL at all. Its all about people in front of you leaving and we still have upgrades to the 700 and attrition happening. Things will pick up again soon, even if at a slower rate.

John, you've got the right attitude. My sentiments exactly. Now if I could just get that class date....

Does anybody know what the criteria will be when its time take pilots out of the pool?

John thanks for that positive perspective... You are right, it is a blow to my confidence, but I also hope it puts me in a better job now that I know what to expect from airline interviews (It was my first one)...

Thanks again

My first interview went great.

It was for the AWESOME entry level job...I wanted it SO badly.

Last step of the interview was a flight in their jet. It was my first jet experience and I got a little overwhelmed during the pre-departure and let myself get in a little bit of a hurry and sort of forgot to brief the captain on the departure.

Whoops. Slow down, remember basic airmanship.

I was not selected. It sucked. Major blow to my confidence too, especially since unlike you, I had a definite screw up and left feeling like I had poor judgment and am a lousy pilot.

That experience prepared me to literally sail through my interview with ASA and what the hell, here I am.

I think this is going to work out better for me than that job I wanted so bad...I'll fly more in a more standardized environment into busier airports.

It all happens for a reason, helps me to remember to trust that there's a purpose to it all and God is watching out for me as long as I abide in Him.

Keep on trucking!

amen johnpeace~!

News flash: ASA has not stopped hiring.
 

I just saw an ad on the WFFF website from ASA dated 3/26/08 advertising for FO's. Mins are 500/50, with preference given to candidates with prior 121 experience.

http://www.flyasa.com/careers/pilot.php

look at the bottom of their page. It hasnt been updated since sometime in February...

Stryker, trust me, I saw their *ad posted yesterday on the WFFF job website:

http://willflyforfood.cc/pilotjobs/index.php

*to view individual ad's membership is necessary.

Heading up to ATL for interview this week. Have any of the recent hires gotten class dates...or any idea when they will be having some more classes? Thanks.

from what i hear they are taking a few months off from hiring. classes should be in may or so. still hiring 10/mo for attrition.

Thanks for the info

1 class starting May 5th besides my class wich started today(3/31) and then that is going to be it for a while they told us today, until they further review there staffing needs. Fuel costs are the reason they say. Looks like besides the may 5th class I'm at the bottom of the seniority list for a while, at least Im the 3rd oldest in my class.

Also for anyone that is interested my class of 10 were all assigned the 700.

heeey i got a buddy in the 3/31 class named mike he is pretty cool you should partner up with him he is a good guy.. good luck in class man!

That seems to be the trend with the recent newhire classes. I wonder what they are ramping up for. We have a page on the company website that shows how many people are on reserve on any given day. This month if you look at that page each day there are about 20 guys on reserve all day. We only have 37-39 700's so Im not sure why they would ever need to use even close to that number of reserve FO's. The 700 for the month of april has 129 hard lines and 165 FO's. That's at least 36 guys awarded a reserve line. I don't know, it's probably normal but at the moment we are definatley fat on FO's since I haven't flown in a week and a half and it doesn't look like Im going to hit the skies anytime soon. No biggy though, get to hang out and be a bumb. Who wouldn't want to get paid to do that?:D

Not true. The entire 3/10 new hire class was originally assigned the 700, then all reassigned the 200 a week later. Still on the 200 as far as we know. Class before mine had some 200 people and a the last 2 ATR guys. Class before that was all 700 and still on the 700.

Hey there,

Sorry for the stupid question, but if I dont ask, I wont know. What does atrition mean? I read up here that they are hiring 10/month for "atrition"..

Just not familiar with the term, still learning...

Cheers!

Attrition is in the dictionary...which is just incredibly accessible to anyone with an internet connection.

I only say that to remind you of the incredible resource you have for expanding your knowledge.

That said, attrition is people leaving the company(retirees, hired elsewhere, leaving the airline industry, moving on, etc).

Duly noted.

I gave the dictionary a shot, this is what I got:

1. A rubbing away or wearing down by friction.
2. A gradual diminution in number or strength because of constant stress.

I could've gone further, I am sure I would've come to the right definition, but one thing I've learned in these forums is that there are a lot of "aviation slang" words, might as well cut to the chase and ask in the forum, since the first two definitions didnt throw much light at me.

Anyways, thanks for clearing it out for me.

Safe flights.

Yea I've met your buddy def. a good guy. We got our systems class schedule today and only 4 out of 10 are starting systems on 4/14, everyone else got assigned a 4/28 date. Mike and I were lucky enough to have the seniority to start on the 14th. He's #2 and I'm #3. Looks like we are all going to be at the bottom of the list for a while, I hope they start running classes like they said they were.

Let me know if you need anything...I've accumulated a pile of good training resources.