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Old 03-27-2008, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by keiundraj View Post
The other day going into D.C. at FL250 I was asked to Slow to My Slowest Practicable speed. I don't know but I probably get the stick shaker at about 170 at that altitude????
So? I don't get what the complaint is for here? ATC gave you the option of what that speed is. It happens often in the NE, get use to it.
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Old 03-27-2008, 07:54 AM
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So? I don't get what the complaint is for here? ATC gave you the option of what that speed is. It happens often in the NE, get use to it.
Practicable –adjective
1. capable of being done, effected, or put into practice, with the available means; feasible

So would the Stick Shaker Qualify as Practicable?
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by keiundraj View Post
Practicable –adjective
1. capable of being done, effected, or put into practice, with the available means; feasible

So would the Stick Shaker Qualify as Practicable?
No, it doesn't that's the point. Didn't they teach you that at ATP? Sorry, I don't carry a Webster's Dictionary with me when I fly. When you get some real experience you'll understand what they mean. Good thing you weren't single pilot, I guess.
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http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...5/atc0507.html

A little reading for you. I suggest you petition the FAA to change their training program.
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Originally Posted by flyfresno View Post
SLC has been training ground controllers lately. Which usually means one set of taxi instruction quickly followed by another voice cutting in and saying "SkyWest XXX, hold position!" and then a completely different set, or something like that...crazy at first but I think we're all getting used to it.
That's very ironic that this came up. A couple of days ago in SLC, ATC told me to make short final and cleared to land on 34L. I repeated back, cleared to land 34L. ATC said "roger." 20 Ft. before touchdown I was told to wave off, that I was cleared for 35, and that I misread them!!!! Scared the crap out of me.
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Originally Posted by Slice View Post
No, it doesn't that's the point. Didn't they teach you that at ATP? Sorry, I don't carry a Webster's Dictionary with me when I fly. When you get some real experience you'll understand what they mean. Good thing you weren't single pilot, I guess.
Should have known...... You're Super Pilot Slice, you know the 7110, they taught you that wherever you got your training!!! LOL, you're right though good thing I wasn't flying by myself. EGO TRIPS!
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Well next time you hear ATC assign you 150 kts and you say unable you can soon expect "turn right heading 090" and head to the back of the line. Put some flaps out and stop whining.
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Originally Posted by keiundraj View Post
Should have known...... You're Super Pilot Slice, you know the 7110, they taught you that wherever you got your training!!! LOL, you're right though good thing I wasn't flying by myself. EGO TRIPS!
It's really nothing more than common sense, if that makes me a super pilot, then so be it. Are you trying to further the argument for those of us against low time pilots in airline cockpits? If so, then keep up the good work!
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It's really nothing more than common sense, if that makes me a super pilot, then so be it. Are you trying to further the argument for those of us against low time pilots in airline cockpits? If so, then keep up the good work!
I know not to go to the Shaker "Big Guy," and I think you're the one who's making the argument. The post was informative until you had to give yourself a confidence booster. Thanks for the Info though man the link you gave me says NOTE-
It is the pilot's responsibility and prerogative to refuse speed adjustment that he/she considers excessive or contrary to the aircraft's operating specifications.

FYI I knew this before you gave me this "experience," but thanks anyway. You're doing the Aviation Industry a great service by teaching us Low Time Pilots in Airline Cockpits. You need a Trophy or better yet someone should get you a couple Plaques!

There.... Hopes that makes you feel like a BIGGER man, if you know what I mean!

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Originally Posted by ebl14 View Post
Well next time you hear ATC assign you 150 kts and you say unable you can soon expect "turn right heading 090" and head to the back of the line. Put some flaps out and stop whining.
Nowhere in our approach profile are we allowed to go full flaps on a downwind leg. I got the turn you are talking about and I don't care one bit. I am paid by the minute. Our approach speed for that leg was 146 knots. That's final approach. Inside the marker. Not downwind at 7000. If I am unable, I am unable. End of story. As the other post showed, 150 is 20 knots below what they can request anyway.

Like I said, I am paid by the minute. Extend my downwind? Bring it on! $$$$
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