PHX flying
 

If Mesa goes belly-up sometime in the next year, which is becoming more and more of a possibility by the minute. . . any speculation as to who might get the PHX flying?

AWA/Airways has been talking on-and-off to SKW about that for years.

But it could really go to anybody, depending on what airplanes they want there. The original 900 presence was conceived pre-merger, not sure how important that is in PHX today since they moved a bunch of them east post-merger.

The most brilliant move would be for Horizon to move down there since they wanna stay west coast. But AAG drags thier feet more than a drunk seal so I doubt it would happen.

I don't see it happening but who knows, it would be great for you guys seeing it would decrease your upgrade time and help to pack the bank with some of Parkers money.

My opinion is that SKW will get the majority of the PHX and LAS flying with RAH taking the rest. I also see AWAC and PSA picking up the slack out east.

I am sure your right.

Hey, who knows, best of luck to you guys.

I'm head back to the Bro where I will be bidding and hopefully holding the best 121 flying in the NATION! That's PDX and SEA. IMO and I've been based in FAT, DEN, SLC, TUS and ATL; PDX flying is the best, bar none!

The last thing they need is Another regional feed. I would expect to see it covered by a combination of expanded WO's (maybe PDT will finally get their 400's!), AWAC, and Republic.

No way! I highly doubt that...

Which part? The one about PDT getting 400's or the one about USAir doing something that makes sense? I won't argue either one. :D

Hmmmmmmm.......ya? That's makes no sense. :confused:

And I'm not talking about what make sense the airlines don't do. The argument that US doesn’t need another feeder doesn't hold that much weight when you look at many factors, one being the ability to whipsaw while limiting ones restraints.

Colgan, TSA, CHQ, Republic, PSA, PDT, AWAC, MESA...did I forget anyone? I don't think they need any more regional carriers, I think they would try and fill Mesa's hole with carriers they already have.

There is no shortage of groups to whipsaw, especially with two separate wholly owed carriers.

The number of carriers is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

Whoever takes the lead in the race to the bottom after MAG folds would get the flying. TSA... Pinnacle... Colgan...? Who wants it guys... how cheap will you work for that "quick" upgrade?

it would be nice if something like that went to AWAC... a change from the East Coast scenery would be nice.

I tired of the East coast 121 flying in about 6 weeks...

I love flying up here and living up here. Would only leave for a gig on a island. Or the ability to commte to an island. It does rain A LOT though.

Hey, I'm just voicing my opinion. It's really more of what I would want to happen than what I think will happen. If I want to dream of PDT and AWAC getting more airways flying instead of Skywest, well I don't think I'm alone. The number of carriers is not irrelevant to me, if they add another new carrier to replace Mesa, that just means the companies already working for airways didn't get the flying, and that I disagree with (which really doesn't matter, because they aren't going to ask either of us what we think about it).

True, we just fly an airplane, we have no influence.

BTW, I'm OK with anyone getting the flying as long as Orenstein gets the boot and is hopefully permanently banned from operating another carrier.

Now we're talking

Yes...the very best outcome of this debacle would be that JO never be free to destroy an Airline again.

I think he is pretty much persona-non-grata in the mainstream airline industry...you won't see him at a big-name carrier. But I wouldn't rule out some start-up...he was buddies with Branson at one point.

Yes, I realize my hopes will never come to fruition but I will always pray that he does not ever get another opportunity to ruin another person’s life other than his own.

That sounds like a dangerous combo there...JO managing a company financed by Branson. Hopefully Sir Richard has more sense than that!

Where are you going to be based? I think you have to have known Methuselah personally in order to get a captain spot in PDX.

I do believe it's already happened.

http://www.mesa-air.com/history.asp
quote:
In early 1998, Mesa recruited Jonathan Ornstein to return to the company as President and CEO. Jonathan had held various positions at Mesa during 1987 to 1994. From 1994 to 1998, Mr. Ornstein was CEO of Continental Express and President and CEO of Virgin Express, a low fare airline based in Brussels.

FAT, I'd say 1/3 of their 4 day trips head up through PDX.

I doubt they are interested in 50 seaters.

Well...thanks for setting me straight!

Way to take the high road....

I'm sure he didn't mean too much by it man.

Too late....

ah ok, that explains all the lost brasillias taxing in circles around the N satellite in seattle. :D

Its pretty clear what the majority of the industry's pilot group thinks of JO. But what about airline execs from other companies? Are they as disapproving of him as most pilots are?