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mrmak2 04-05-2008 08:50 AM

ASA ATRs
 
I read ASA is dropping the ATRs in June or July. Anyone know where those planes are going? I know cargo outfits like MAC probably would like to pick them up, just wondering if any airlines were interested.

Also, for ASA people, what is the average age for those airplanes, and are they all early models or are there some -500s? Thanks

ehaeckercfi 04-05-2008 08:51 AM

THey are all 212's from the early 90's

willflyforcash 04-05-2008 09:53 AM

We will take 'em! Ours are all broke.. .

Sincerely,

Amerikan Eagull Manidjmint

jth029 04-05-2008 01:32 PM

You don't want them. I fly them, they are getting pretty rough

citationdrvrmob 04-05-2008 02:58 PM

My favorite part about jumpseating in those is pulling out different panels to see what kind of pictures are behind them....

willflyforcash 04-05-2008 03:21 PM

haha, saw some playb0y flight attendant pix last week.

ChadE 04-05-2008 03:37 PM

I hear alot of them are going to mountain air cargo

Killer51883 04-05-2008 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by jth029 (Post 356353)
You don't want them. I fly them, they are getting pretty rough


The ones at eagle are ROUGH all twisted and broken, none of them fly straight...not that the 145 i brought down to TRI this evening is any better!

SharkyBN584 04-06-2008 12:52 AM

They're going to be some redneck's lawn ornament. There's a reason you can't spot them when they fly over trailer parks.

willflyforcash 04-06-2008 07:43 AM

this may be true.... however, they do a damn good job when put on the right routes.

fit29 04-06-2008 09:44 AM

Why is ASA getting rid of these in 100 bb oil environment?
It just doesn's seem to make any sense.

RamenNoodles 04-06-2008 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by fit29 (Post 356828)
Why is ASA getting rid of these in 100 bb oil environment?
It just doesn's seem to make any sense.

Because they are on lease from DL, and DL is not renewing the leases. At this stage of the game, the ATR's cost more to maintain than they save in fuel costs.

Skyteam18 04-07-2008 10:38 AM

I heard they'll be flying around in an all white paint job a few months before they get axed from the fleet. So that should be a sign its just around the corner.

RamenNoodles 04-07-2008 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Skyteam18 (Post 357539)
I heard they'll be flying around in an all white paint job a few months before they get axed from the fleet. So that should be a sign its just around the corner.

I sort of doubt that. It would cost way too much money to paint them and pull them out of service a few weeks/months later. Makes more sense to just leave them alone and let the owner's take care of them when they are returned. Who knows though, things almost never make sense at ASA.

Skyteam18 04-07-2008 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by RamenNoodles (Post 357584)
I sort of doubt that. It would cost way too much money to paint them and pull them out of service a few weeks/months later. Makes more sense to just leave them alone and let the owner's take care of them when they are returned. Who knows though, things almost never make sense at ASA.

Thats just what i heard from some folks over in the ATR fleet the other week. But then again.. weirder things have happened

ChadE 04-07-2008 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by RamenNoodles (Post 357584)
I sort of doubt that. It would cost way too much money to paint them and pull them out of service a few weeks/months later. Makes more sense to just leave them alone and let the owner's take care of them when they are returned. Who knows though, things almost never make sense at ASA.

According to the few people I have talked to they will be going to get repainted in the next few months.

ATRsteve 04-07-2008 06:10 PM

this is true according to what we were just told in recurrent. delta can't return the planes in their paint scheme.

i wonder if there will be a penalty for returning them full of pictures of naked women. someone has been buying quality stuff lately

ehaeckercfi 04-07-2008 09:36 PM

I already miss those ATR's. I will miss flying a real airplane!

flybywire44 04-08-2008 09:00 AM

I was told we're flying them to Mexico to get painted? Haha, where are they really being repainted? :rolleyes:

ChadE 04-08-2008 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by flybywire44 (Post 358325)
I was told we're flying them to Mexico to get painted? Haha, where are they really being repainted? :rolleyes:


Thats true also thats what we were told in initial

saabguy493 04-11-2008 06:47 PM

Wait and see, maybe Piedmont will pick them up. They have wanted either that or the Q400, who knows!

PCLCREW 04-12-2008 05:14 AM

I have heard many times that if the merger goes through.... Mesaba saabs will have the same fate. From some people I know in Delta mngmt... Delta doesn't want anymore tubro-props. Mesaba stands to take a big hit in the merger is what I hear from the inside...

N261ND 04-12-2008 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 361767)
I have heard many times that if the merger goes through.... Mesaba saabs will have the same fate. From some people I know in Delta mngmt... Delta doesn't want anymore tubro-props. Mesaba stands to take a big hit in the merger is what I hear from the inside...

Good luck trying to fly a jet into Devils Lake, ND or International Falls, MN.

152hvy 04-12-2008 08:27 AM

Those ATR 72s are probably still expensive for the FDX feeder fleet since they only buy the cheapest of the cheap...

PCLCREW 04-12-2008 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by N261ND (Post 361825)
Good luck trying to fly a jet into Devils Lake, ND or International Falls, MN.

Your right... but the fate of MSP and SLC will be a big question, so service to those places may be gone. There will be big cuts in the "new Delta" system. Delta has already said they will downsize MEM into almost nothing, and they are still looking into the numbers about which Northern hub they will keep. I bet SLC will stay and all of us in the NWA system will be moving around, and that all depends on which regionals they will keep.


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