Airlines Merging
 

Does anyone know if the Northwest/Delta merging will affect the regional airlines and their hiring in the future? Are any regionals planning to merge also?

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All should remain as they are. There will be no merging of the regionals. The new Delta will need all 11 of the regional airline partners.

All of the following airlines will have absolutely no disruption.

Comair
Skywest
ASA
ExpressJet
Mesa
Mesaba
Pinnacle
Colgan
Chautauqua
Shuttle America
Compass



Taxes will fall to only 5 percent of earnings, world hunger will end, and Oprah will keep the weight off.

You can now go back to your regularly scheduled program.

I guess this is all tounge-in-cheek.

And Colgan isn't in the DAL-NWA mix....

I just read that and laughed. Let me look into my crystal ball, hmm it reads the same as xkuzme1's post

with all the mess with reductions that has been going on, I know that Expressjet just added 3 more planes in LAX for Delta, now we're up to 21.

Soldierboy,

There are a couple other threads on this already. Read them.

Mergers aren't good for anybody. Somebody will lose and it's nearly always labor.

It's going to be a wild ride. NWA has Compass. I'm hoping they go for sale and RAH picks them up. I know DAL wants to shave the 50 seaters but that's a hella lot of 50seaters to shave. Whatever contracts NWA and DAL have they are still required to uphold them. I believe DAL and cancel ours if they notify withing a certain amount of time. I'm expecting Mesa to tank and CHQ to buy some Freedom ERJs. I know what the Pope is saying here about his feelings for 50 seaters but if CAL wants them CAL will get them.

I agree they aren't good for anybody... At least in the short term. In the long run of things mergers could be the best thing that happens. The one thing management is good for is fighting for survival. Merging to 3 mega carriers can allow them to up ticket prices across the board meaning there could finally be decent pay again with nice work rules. Nothing comes at a cost though. Stagnation in seniority is something we can all expect. This might be painful but 10yrs from now might be the best thing that could have happened. With Open Skies and start up Skybus style airlines this could be the thing we've been waiting for to set the industry strait again. Kinda like a capitalist version of re-regulation. The gov't won't do it so the airlines basically are.

I'm not flaiming here or saying I'm for or against these. Depends on how the management decides to run with it. They could either make life better or use the fewer airlines as a way to make things worse. We'll have to see. I'm simply saying in the long run this could be beneficial.

Why do you hope Compass is sold to RAH. I bet you want the pilots to get stapled right?

Compass will not be sold the chances are Mesaba and Compass will merge. Mesaba's 200 will go away and it will be a 3 aircraft airline with no 50 seaters. It will probably have 90 76 seat A/C and 50 SF340.

All I got to say is that Pinnacle is not in good shape. Only 50 seaters in the NW side, and only a few 900 (not doing so well) in the Delta side. On time performance this year in the pooper, a strike knocking on the door and at the bottom of the priority list of NW. NW will be busy with their own babies, Mesaba and Compass. Wish us luck !

one would hope with the very junior lists for each side some kind of agreement could be reached and the lists could be fairly integrated.

no matter who buys whom....if any... I would doubt you will see a stapling of any seniority lists.

Why? Has nothing to do with staple. With Compass and RAH flying E-Jets for DAL it's easier to use them against one another. Just as DAL/NWA will be stronger in a merge so would RAH if it purchased Compass. Both pilot groups would benefit from it. If Compass forces RAH into a bidding war then the rock bottom prices equal rock bottom contract pay. We're in negotiations and I'd like to not see someone else used as a reason for us to not get top pay.

And let it not be forgotten that our leader as he may be has ties to NWA.... first he was the ceo of Mesaba at one point so has worked with NWA in the past.... 2nd His father in law is on the BOD at NWA.... and third rumor those Compass E175 slots were purchased from ...yep... you guessed it....... RAH. Flame away.

Now that's funny! I don't care who you are!:D Good luck to all. This next year or two should prove to be very interesting to say the least.

i believe compass was created with the clause that it can be sold after a certain number of e175s are on property.

it is merely a creation, in my opinion, as a bargaining tool to get around scope clauses.

take a little from pilots now and a little more later.

it was created to eventually allow 70+ seats on property that aren't flown by the big boys

i am at RAH and i feel compass would come here before it gets merged with mesaba.

I just can't wait to get my new Comsabaconnectlink uniform!! I wonder what the colors will be--maybe blue with black and alternating gold and silver stripes???

I am just glad to have a little senority on the mighty Saabomatic as it will be an interesting year or two.

I really don't how these should be affected other then being painted Delta Connection colors. I would want as many regionals flying for me as possible so that no one feeder company has control. I wouldn't put too much thought into it.

You guys can put your crystal balls down; I'm here to tell you what will happen:
After NWA & DAL merge, I will buy Compass. After taking the seats out of their airplanes, it'll be time for a demolition derby in the 30 pad at IAD! A $395 entry fee will get you in the cockpit with the chance to win $1K in prize money if you're the champion.

Yet again a wasted few seconds of my life from reading one of your posts. Is there any possibility that you could just not say something so a topic can stay on track? Just once? Or at least try harder and post something actually funny like the 2nd guy did.

Got a message from a NWA friend. He brought up an interesting scenario, to wit- If merger goes through, he believes that eventually MEM will close for NWA[too close to ATL], and CVG will close for DAL[too close to DTW]. Wonder how this would affect the staffing, of say, Pinnacle, or Comair? Thoughts ??

Ha ha! :D

I thought it was funny, regardless of what the LavChicken says.

I dont think New Delta will not let one regional fly one type of airplane. Look how many regionals are flying CR2 and CR7.

I dont know if the CBA that allowed Compass to fly will still exist post merger. If it does then Compass can't be sold until a certain number of new narrow bodies are on property. Its all about money, whoever will save or cost less is what they will do.

Compass is pretty cheap on labor because we are all on 1st year pay.