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Yup if they are going to work on the scope they need everything over 50 seats out the window. Get that Q400 out of there.
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Originally Posted by Nevets
(Post 366317)
I'm hoping that when they negotiate the scope clause, that they scope themselves any 51+ seaters. I could even live with them fencing the current 51+ seaters until those contracts expire. Is an XJT pilot, I'm counting on you CAL/UAL pilots.;) But it will be tough going...Now that the genie is out of the bottle it's not going to be easy to put it back. All of the competion has larger outsouced RJ's, so any mainline manager will complain that he is at a competetive disadvantange operating RJ's in-house...and it would not be a lie. |
Originally Posted by Ottopilot
(Post 365514)
NO. I'll fight for all jets flown by CAL/UAL pilots. That means hiring the regional guys. Of course, the pay would go up too. No more jobs at the regional level, create major jobs. :)
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I don't want to but I don't want to out source my job either.
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Originally Posted by G-Dog
(Post 367080)
How many CAL pilots want to fly the 170? My guess is zero. Not trying to start a ****ing match, but I do not think the mainline guys want to sit in that plane.
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Let me take this a step further. Are there any mainline guys willing to fly the 145? Forget all the regional guy who flies it now. The regional guy will say yes, cause it means a seniority number at mainline. I am talking about right now, if CAL said no more Express Jet and no more Colgan and no more Chautauqua, will the mainline guy fly the 145?
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Originally Posted by G-Dog
(Post 367182)
Let me take this a step further. Are there any mainline guys willing to fly the 145? Forget all the regional guy who flies it now. The regional guy will say yes, cause it means a seniority number at mainline. I am talking about right now, if CAL said no more Express Jet and no more Colgan and no more Chautauqua, will the mainline guy fly the 145?
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Originally Posted by G-Dog
(Post 367182)
Let me take this a step further. Are there any mainline guys willing to fly the 145? Forget all the regional guy who flies it now. The regional guy will say yes, cause it means a seniority number at mainline. I am talking about right now, if CAL said no more Express Jet and no more Colgan and no more Chautauqua, will the mainline guy fly the 145?
That said, they'd have to re-arrange the payrates...the 170/175 or even the 145 in the CA seat likely have to pay at least a little more than the 777 in the FO seat. |
and thats not gonna happen..... thats sorta the reason we are where we are in this business.....
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 367211)
Yes, I bet they would....and doubly so if the option was fly an RJ or have that flying outsourced. I think the days of people being "too good" to fly small jets are over with.
That said, they'd have to re-arrange the payrates...the 170/175 or even the 145 in the CA seat likely have to pay at least a little more than the 777 in the FO seat. |
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