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ExperimentalAB 04-21-2008 06:59 PM

Do they no longer pay for hotel for new-hires?? Boy that was short-lived...Be smarter than I was, newbies! A company that doesn't, at the very least put you up, is not even worth a second-thought...

flynavyj 04-21-2008 07:01 PM

love how St. Ann and Breckenridge are considered the ghetto around here by every pilot i meet. Sure, there are certain streets i wouldn't walk down at night, but in a TRUE ghetto, you wouldn't want to walk down them at high noon.

ExperimentalAB 04-21-2008 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 370558)
love how St. Anne and Breckenridge are considered the ghetto around here by every pilot i meet. Sure, there are certain streets i wouldn't walk down at night, but in a TRUE ghetto, you wouldn't want to walk down them at high noon.

East St. Louis, baby yeah!

Pilotpip 04-21-2008 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 370558)
love how St. Ann and Breckenridge are considered the ghetto around here by every pilot i meet. Sure, there are certain streets i wouldn't walk down at night, but in a TRUE ghetto, you wouldn't want to walk down them at high noon.

I grew up east of Flight Safety on Natural Bridge. I loved hearing people ***** about the 3am sim session because of the neighborhood.

BURflyer 04-21-2008 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 370556)
Do they no longer pay for hotel for new-hires?? Boy that was short-lived...Be smarter than I was, newbies! A company that doesn't, at the very least put you up, is not even worth a second-thought...

It seemed like the perfect idea though to me, they give you 800 dollars for housing plus min guarantee, no worries about spending the night with a total stranger. What they don't tell you is that they pay you two random 200 dollar checks the first month and the rest of the money they give after you pass!!!! Talk about a rip off.

Salukipilot4590 04-22-2008 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by BURflyer (Post 370662)
It seemed like the perfect idea though to me, they give you 800 dollars for housing plus min guarantee, no worries about spending the night with a total stranger. What they don't tell you is that they pay you two random 200 dollar checks the first month and the rest of the money they give after you pass!!!! Talk about a rip off.

Just more reason to pass! :p

If I didnt put it up here before I'm available if any of you new guys have questions. I usually bring my CPU along when I know I'm going to be sitting somewhere for a while.

Study hard! Its only two months of pain before you're done and living the dream!

threegreen 04-22-2008 06:44 AM

Does any1 have their hands on TSA contract, if so can you guys PM me?

Stryker 04-22-2008 06:58 AM

I have to say just from what ive seen on here it definitely seems like the pilot group is a pretty giving group... with people offering help left and right there is no excuse for 50% pass rates... Guess those people in Feb that failed just werent motivated enough or afraid to ask for help....

TBucket 04-22-2008 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 370789)
I have to say just from what ive seen on here it definitely seems like the pilot group is a pretty giving group... with people offering help left and right there is no excuse for 50% pass rates... Guess those people in Feb that failed just werent motivated enough or afraid to ask for help....

I'm not sure what happened to those guys, but most of the ones that were lost in my new hire class were of the mind that they went to "xyz school" and didn't really NEED to study. (Or spent most of their time drinking instead of studying). If you bust your ass, there's no problem passing. But you really DO have to bust your ass...

Stryker 04-22-2008 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by TBucket (Post 370809)
I'm not sure what happened to those guys, but most of the ones that were lost in my new hire class were of the mind that they went to "xyz school" and didn't really NEED to study. (Or spent most of their time drinking instead of studying). If you bust your ass, there's no problem passing. But you really DO have to bust your ass...

Dont you worry, thats the ONLY thing on my mind... haha.. but I guarantee ill be one of the ones PMing with questions... Thanks for the offers by the way for help...

ExperimentalAB 04-22-2008 07:39 AM

Do NOT forget to go out and stretch your legs once in awhile though!! That is probably the most important thing you can do for yourself in training. Drop the book, take a ride, a walk, whatever...go have a drink and clear your head once every day or two. You'll go mad otherwise.

Keep yourself sharp - that is more important than the book knowledge. And hey - if I survived that nightmare, anybody can :D

Stryker 04-22-2008 07:40 AM

And what exactly are you trying to say? haha

POPA 04-22-2008 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 370558)
love how St. Ann and Breckenridge are considered the ghetto around here by every pilot i meet. Sure, there are certain streets i wouldn't walk down at night, but in a TRUE ghetto, you wouldn't want to walk down them at high noon.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83...r/DSCN2531.jpg

Stryker 04-22-2008 12:39 PM

looks like a small class.... I was told today its only gonna be 6 of us...

Foxcow 04-22-2008 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by TBucket (Post 370809)
I'm not sure what happened to those guys, but most of the ones that were lost in my new hire class were of the mind that they went to "xyz school" and didn't really NEED to study. (Or spent most of their time drinking instead of studying). If you bust your ass, there's no problem passing. But you really DO have to bust your ass...




Bingo!


I don't know why some people think training was a nightmare. Maybe they aren't that motivated or maybe they are expecting the company to hold their hands and spoonfeed you through. They give you what you need to know, and there is plenty of help available. Now I do agree that our training can seem pretty draconian at times but its TSA.


<TSA salute>

gear goes down 04-22-2008 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 371026)
looks like a small class.... I was told today its only gonna be 6 of us...

They called me today to see if im still coming and told me that there was only going to be 6. Small class I guess could be good, more one on one time.

Stryker 04-22-2008 03:23 PM

my thoughts exactly... I wonder if they just couldnt fill all 12 spots? oh well, we are in this one, and im happy about that...

Salukipilot4590 04-22-2008 03:58 PM

If it makes anyone feel better the March class just got done with the orals and have a 100% pass rate!

Stryker 04-22-2008 05:03 PM

So the oral and the sim ride are 2 different days?

BURflyer 04-22-2008 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 371186)
If it makes anyone feel better the March class just got done with the orals and have a 100% pass rate!

That's because they didn't get the TSA dream team of examiners in March.

reevesofskyking 04-22-2008 05:44 PM

I just dropped a resume off for a friend today, and I was told that they did not think there was anymore hiring going on

I was told that very few are leaving now because of no one else is hiring much. For the most part that is true.

What and see how the summer goes

Foxcow 04-22-2008 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by reevesofskyking (Post 371247)
I just dropped a resume off for a friend today, and I was told that they did not think there was anymore hiring going on

I was told that very few are leaving now because of no one else is hiring much. For the most part that is true.

What and see how the summer goes



Hopefully this summer, the seniority list has diarrhea like last year.

threegreen 04-22-2008 06:44 PM

well...if we do get more 145s from mesa i am sure we would have to hire.

AV8ER 04-22-2008 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Foxcow (Post 371280)
Hopefully this summer, the seniority list has diarrhea like last year.

Nobody is going to have much attrition this summer...very very few are hiring. Get comfortable where you're sitting, b/c you're gonna be there for a while.

Stryker 04-23-2008 07:53 AM

wow this thread turned negative real quick....

Salukipilot4590 04-23-2008 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 371602)
wow this thread turned negative real quick....

Well man you gotta take the bitter with the sweet! We all know the industry is cyclical...it WILL get better again then we will all go through what we're going through now again. Just be glad you have a foot in the door right now and havent had a class dropped on ya! I wont go into what I think is going to happen this summer but I know that I am confident that I am secure in this job.

Stryker 04-23-2008 08:29 AM

Yea I hear ya.... When its good its great, but when its rough is SUCKS... I am glad to get my foot in the door before they shut it, bolt it, and put a door stop on it.. haha

reevesofskyking 04-23-2008 09:14 AM

I still think we have the possibilty of some growth. I do not think it is going to be explosive by any means, it will be what has always been cautious. I think for the short run TSA is on sure footing unless someone makes a real bone head move or a codeshare would drop us or something like that. Those are things that I cannot predict.

I think I have saw somewhere where some one said hang on to your seat and sit tight for the summer.

that is what i am going to do, and from what Check Airman I have talked to there is quite a few CA and FO's still waiting on IOE, so that leads me to believe staffing will be where it has to be, or just slightly better.

For the new guys, watch the open time, I always throw stuff in there that I dont want to do.

threegreen 04-23-2008 10:13 AM

just got email from kathy, looks like i am going into the pool. She said they are not having the turn over rate they expected. It might be couple months till class date

reevesofskyking 04-23-2008 10:20 AM

Well hang in there. I have never known them to have a pool.

I would stay on the safe side and stay in contact with her so she remembers who you are.

Sorry to hear about that

threegreen 04-23-2008 10:26 AM

yea it sucks, but at least i was hired...she said she is still going to mail the memory items/limitations. Would you just suggest just to shoot her email every week? saying what though?

reevesofskyking 04-23-2008 11:22 AM

I would not do it every week. but once a month or every three weeks or something like that

gear goes down 04-23-2008 03:04 PM

Well, I guess our class will be at the bottom 6 of the seniority list for a long time. Thats going to suck. Oh well.

Stryker 04-23-2008 03:05 PM

nah... I bet this is a temporary freeze.... im just gonna stay positive... we all should....

ExperimentalAB 04-23-2008 07:33 PM

What?! No more FO attrition? LoL :D

Salukipilot4590 04-23-2008 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 372245)
What?! No more FO attrition? LoL :D

To where...

Stryker 04-23-2008 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 372245)
What?! No more FO attrition? LoL :D

one can only hope... :D

fjetter 04-24-2008 07:45 PM

I just interviewed with TSA last Wed. there were two of us there and they were talking about a pool for the month of june. They were unsure about how large of a class that would be with the may class being 6. Not too impressed with the company, after the written test, had a guy speak with us explain the pool and pay, who seemed like he could come up with a million other things he would rather be doing than talk to us. No "Why you should work here presentation" or anything. I have to wait a few days based on the background check to determine if I'm in the pool or not.

ExperimentalAB 04-24-2008 07:54 PM

Don't look to be impressed at TSA and you'll be fine there...Really.

flynavyj 04-24-2008 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 372245)
What?! No more FO attrition? LoL :D


lol, as saluki said, to where? The greener pastures that stopped hiring before we did?

Neways, sucks to be in the pool, but there are worse places you could be. Also sucks to be on the bottom, but hey, that's where i'm at, hanging out and doing my best to enjoy life.


fjetter,

if you expected to be impressed with trans states, i'd wonder if you'd done your research at all before applying there...If you want to know why you should work at Trans States, here it is....we have a good bunch of pilots, and it's a nice small work force, go to work here, leave when you've got the experience, and move on to somewhere else. Pretty much it, short and to the point. enjoy and good luck.


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