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Green Banana 04-23-2008 10:08 AM

the desert???

Holy Toledo 04-23-2008 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by dbo861 (Post 371734)
So..where are these E175s going to end up? Us Airways Express? United Express? Delta Connection??

Nothing has been announced. This is still too fresh.

ExperimentalAB 04-23-2008 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by sweettails (Post 371556)
Frontier annouced this morning that it is ending its contract with Republic. I believe this has been coming for some time because it was a bad contract that was negotiated by the last CEO that had us paying for all their fuel costs. I personally will miss Republic, good people and airplanes that served our product well, just did not serve our bottom line and it was time for it to go.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080423/front...ways.html?.v=1

It wasn't a bad contract (like any fee-for-departure) until Oil went through the roof...

HercDriver130 04-23-2008 10:50 AM

It will be interesting to see how much ( if any ) RAH recovers thru the BK court.... BB has already stated he is filling a 260 million claim against Frontier for breaking the contract.

twigs 04-23-2008 11:02 AM

They are all bad contracts now! When the majors are all reporting a loss and the regionals are all smacking their knee O so happy that they do not have to buy their own fuel. Unless somthing changes I predict that when contracts are up most, if not all, airlines are not going to sign a "100% fuel cost" contract anymore.

thepotato232 04-23-2008 06:59 PM

Thanks for the kind words, sweettails. Sure, everyone at RAH is pretty bummed, but most everyone understands that F9 needs to do whatever it thinks will help them get through the rough times ahead. The RAH flying wasn't really going to help the company get out of bankruptcy, and if F9 needs to cut capacity they'd damn well better drop the RJ drivers before they hurt the mainline guys. Sucks for us, but any pilot with an ounce of foresight can see that it's better to cut the regional carrier if it means a better future for the real airline - after all, those are the jobs we're all after, right? BB's lawsuit is legal boilerplate - It'd be tough to wring a lot of cash out of a Ch.11 carrier for terminating a contract. Nobody knows where our orphan planes are going now, but I'd be shocked if the higher-ups around here hadn't planned on this in the near future. But hey, we just picked up a Charlotte to Montreal route! So I got that goin' for me. Which is nice.

KiloAlpha 04-23-2008 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by Green Banana (Post 371745)
the desert???

Not an American one anyway.... could be sold overseas. Bedford is a smart guy, I have faith he will find a home for the planes; ironically he stated that we WILL NOT PURSUE BRANDED FLYING as another regional has. I'd bet that BB has a back-up plan formulated...

On a side note RAH will go from understaffed to staffed pretty much overnight (2 months)

I feel for my Denver counterparts, but I sure am glad that none of those FOs will be bidding into my base during the displacement. Not sure how many would anyway, PIT is a 2 leg commute for most.

Rightseat Ballast 04-23-2008 07:11 PM

The Frontier aircraft are 170's, not 175's. Since we are replacing Delta's 170's with 175's, i am going to guess United or US Airways will be the winners in "get regional life for less". Likely, US Airways will create some flying for Republic. Republic management helped out Airways management in the past, and I would expect the favor will be returned.

ExperimentalAB 04-23-2008 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Rightseat Ballast (Post 372223)
The Frontier aircraft are 170's, not 175's. Since we are replacing Delta's 170's with 175's, i am going to guess United or US Airways will be the winners in "get regional life for less". Likely, US Airways will create some flying for Republic. Republic management helped out Airways management in the past, and I would expect the favor will be returned.

Unfortunately, in this cut-throat business...well "favors" aren't often returned.

KiloAlpha 04-23-2008 07:17 PM

Good thing I kept my flight instructor license current.


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