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Originally Posted by willflyforcash (Post 376822)

Contract idea: Guaranteed CA pay after X number of years! :D

That could turn into a HUGE retro check!:eek::D

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Originally Posted by Paok (Post 376816)

not to burst your bubble again, RAH is now DOWNgrading captains....... do some research

No downgrading YET. Just cancelled upgrade bids. If you don't take the fed ride, you aren't a CA and can't be downgraded. Unless we see a dramatic change, I'd bet at least 3 years for someone hired today to see upgrade. I was hired in July 2007 and I'm betting 3 years for myself.

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Originally Posted by weirdbiz (Post 376820)

well i suppose it coincides with aircraft orders but a critical factor in upgrade time is the growth or reduction of the flying. AE has a solid chance of losing some its flying if AMR continues with the divestiture.
Also, and this goes with attrition, AE has a lot of guys that got stuck here with the AA flowback and the disastrous post 9-11 years, and a lot of these guys now have no intention of going anywhere for the rest of their careers. They're making close to $100k (I've never understood why that's a magic number for self-contentedness) and are senior and have the inertia of age. It's true that all the regionals have these, but AE has a larger contingency than all others. And this slows upgrade time because a significant part of the captain pool is not in motion.
If letter 3 stuff ever gets sorted out it could have a significant impact if career Eagle guys decide to go to AA. But that's speculation.
Anyway, if things continue as they are now, which never happens, I could see a 4 year upgrade at Eagle. Possibly, just possibly, as low as 3 or 3 1/2 although most of the low time guys won't even have the hours to upgrade in 3 years. There's definitely a large x-factor in there with the divestiture.

very true.. there is a lot of uncertainty with the divestiture. its funny that they haven't really mentioned it since the initial announcement. Even witht he divestiture on the horizon, I would still rather be here than at one of the bottom feeders, losing contract flying left and right. Things would be much more clear if Letter 3 was resolved and then closed, never to be revisited again. (Obviously that is an oversimplified statement.) Tomorrow is May 1st, 2008. I wonder what will happen with the Flowbacks, currently flying our aircraft. hmmmmm

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Originally Posted by cbire880 (Post 376828)

You sure about that, I know someone who was on IOE who got a call from the chief and made back into an FO

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Originally Posted by Paok (Post 376837)

You sure about that, I know someone who was on IOE who got a call from the chief and made back into an FO

You have to take your Line Check before you're acutally a CA. Just because you've passed you type and ATP doesn't make you a CA. Therfore, he was never downgraded.

exactly......no fed ride = not a capt......plus i suspect hiring to resume in 3-5 months....... just a hunch.

For the hiring spree to reignite, we need: 1) Oil Prices to get under control. 2) The Economy to show signs of recovery.

I say give it a year or so...

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Originally Posted by cbire880 (Post 376828)

If you don't take the fed ride, you aren't a CA and can't be downgraded.

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Originally Posted by Paok (Post 376837)

You sure about that, I know someone who was on IOE who got a call from the chief and made back into an FO

dunno if it's the same for other airlines, but our captains do their fed ride AFTER their IOE.. so according to cbire, yes, "captain" on IOE isn't a captain.

No prob johnson! You used one of my personal favorites..."whizzin' in the cheerios".. hahaha

Not hijackin (hate that word!) the thread, but how is NWA? Where ya based? Were you in IAH at XJT?

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Originally Posted by Roper92 (Post 376883)

No prob johnson! You used one of my personal favorites..."whizzin' in the cheerios".. hahaha

Not hijackin (hate that word!) the thread, but how is NWA? Where ya based? Were you in IAH at XJT?

NWA is good. The DC9 is OLD, but it's fun, and the crews are great. Kinda strange being unable to go direct to intersections, but it also makes things a little easier.:D

Obviously there is the whole merger thing. Whatever happens, happens. I don't regret leaving XJET. It was a great place to work and I had a blast there, but it wasn't my career goal.

I was a IAH FO from 07/05-12/06, then I was EWR CA from 03/07-11/07. Did ONT for two months before leaving for NWA. Best of Luck to my XE Brothers and Sisters. I still have a lot of friends there, and am keeping my fingers crossed for the best.