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FA's make more than pilots!?
http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work...ix-Figure-Jobs
I don't believe it obviously but I think it's funny. $106,220 for the top 10% my fanny. |
Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
(Post 392412)
http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work...ix-Figure-Jobs
I don't believe it obviously but I think it's funny. $106,220 for the top 10% my fanny. |
Those earning six figures might very well be providing additional "services..."
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One of my neighbors has been at SWA 14 years. And has made more than her Husband for a while now. Over 5 years at least. He's a Captain on a 747 ACMI outfit.
She said she makes around 85K the last four years. That's almost triple what my FA friend makes at Delta! And then the Brain Washed DL FA'S turn down the AFA. Idiots. |
Originally Posted by Spaceman Spliff
(Post 392417)
Those earning six figures might very well be providing additional "services..."
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"Air traffic controllers rank No. 1 on this list with the top 10% earning $141,860 a year.
Perched in a tower overlooking the airport, the air traffic controller regulates and controls commercial airline flights to ensure flight safety. The average annual salary is $107,780, while the median annual salary is $112,930. Illinois is the highest-paying state for this occupation. O'Hare International Airport, based in Chicago, Ill., is one of the busiest airports in the world." This is very misleading as well. The controllers earning 140k are old timers on the older contract... and even then you'd have to be in some kind of supervisory position in a level 12 center, after many years of service. I don't believe new controllers will ever see that kind of money with the new payscale. As far as being perched on a tower overlooking the airport, few towers across the country are level 11, the vast majority are lower paying levels, and thus most tower controllers could never see 6 figures. |
Originally Posted by kalyx522
(Post 392524)
"Air traffic controllers rank No. 1 on this list with the top 10% earning $141,860 a year.
Perched in a tower overlooking the airport, the air traffic controller regulates and controls commercial airline flights to ensure flight safety. The average annual salary is $107,780, while the median annual salary is $112,930. Illinois is the highest-paying state for this occupation. O'Hare International Airport, based in Chicago, Ill., is one of the busiest airports in the world." This is very misleading as well. The controllers earning 140k are old timers on the older contract... and even then you'd have to be in some kind of supervisory position in a level 12 center, after many years of service. I don't believe new controllers will ever see that kind of money with the new payscale. As far as being perched on a tower overlooking the airport, few towers across the country are level 11, the vast majority are lower paying levels, and thus most tower controllers could never see 6 figures. |
At SWA FAs can easily earn more than six figures easy by working the schedule right. Since they aren't restricted in putting strings of trips togther, I've met several FAs that have put together over 200TFP for a month while keeping a decent number of days off. They have all kinds of "unique" clauses. On duty more than 12 hours?...they're paid 2 times their rate. On duty for over 12:30 getting back to domicile and have a trip the next day?..paid at 1.5 times the rate. On duty over 16 hours...paid 3 times their rate. Less than 10 hours of rest on an overnight?..everything pays 2 times the rate. With those kind of rules it's not hard to bring in some cash. My wife is a FA at SWA and during her first 6 months not even working that much she was making more than I did as a third year FO (36/hr) at CHQ. It can be done, but the article is just like all the ones as pilots we complain about..."The top pilots earn over 200K a year...."
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I know an FA at SWA that made 125 grand five years ago. The FA system at SWA is actually easier to maneuver than the pilots. Flight attendants have multiple opportunities to make time and a half every month. Plus the company often offers time and a half during the month when they are desperate to cover trips.
There are plenty of FAs that make more than the new FOs..........its amazing that the FAs make more to serve Coke and Sprite than the regional pilots make to fly the plane!!!!! Nothing against FAs.......but its crazy that the pilots at a regional make so little and have so much responsibility! |
SWA FA's clear 100k
I talked to an SWA FA about this when I was commuting. She said that the way they work it is to drop their trips, and then pick it up after 24 or 48 hours added to another trip and the entire time they pick up is time and a half. SWA flight attendants with seniority who work a lot easily clear 100k. That's why they are so happy and give commuters a whole can :D.
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Actually you can drop your trip in Open time and pick it back up that second, you just better hope no one gets to it before you do!!!! A 4 day that pays 32 can be put in open time and picked back up......and end up paying 48 hours. Plus, if any "funny stuff" happens, you could potentially get double time on top of that. For example with less than 10 hours from arrival to departure on an overnight, the entire next day pays double time. It adds up fast when the weather goes south. Yes, aren't SWA FAs the best!!!!!
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Originally Posted by flyifrvfr
(Post 392485)
Ya never know.. But who would pay for a tired out roast beef looking haggard FA?
I don't meat so I prefer "prunes" absolutely nothing wrong sippin' on wine. quality wine, hmm far from it, but it's wine none the less and it gets the job done...sometimes..... |
Remember guys in these surveys they take the hourly pay rate and multiply it times a normal work schedule. They do not use the W2 earnings, they don;t consider the 1000 hr max per month. That's why airline employees always look like they make more than they do to the public.
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FAs don't have 30 in 7 or max 100 hours per month, I've seen FAs work 200 hours per month and at 40 and 50 dollars an hour not to mention some time and a half in there, these FAs are raking it in!!!
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More media-idiocy-BS. I like how they say certain states, such as Florida and Illinois are the states that pay the most for F/A's and ATC, respectively, as if a F/A could move to FL and get better pay. This corporate/management sponsored "information" (this one comes from Forbes magazine) completely undermines labor movements and significantly reduces public support for better work rules. "You make 102K a year! Stop complaining! etc. etc. etc." I just had a guy in an elevator look at me after an overnight in some podunk rinky dinky hotel at the end of a five day trip, and he said I should be happy, I make 300 to 400K a year!!! No joke, this was three days ago.
Though some disagree, I have no problems educating those who need to be educated about our pay and work rules, even if they're my customers. They have a right to know, and if we're being misaligned by constant propaganda, it's only up to us to rectify it. |
THE "PILOT PROFESSION" is sorely lacking in (ANY) P.R.
ALPA has dropped the ball decades ago and nobody has organized / funded any sort of PR campaign. When I "enlighten" folks that I talk to, they are absolutely amazed at what people are out there flying for!!!! I might move forward with my "one pilot group" idea ..... WPA / Worldwide Pilots Assoc. Somebody needs to do something damn it> am I right? Reino...................out |
It's getting quite pathetic. I don't understand how people keep entering the industry.
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Originally Posted by usa3000go
(Post 392945)
It's getting quite pathetic. I don't understand how people keep entering the industry.
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Doesn't there need to be more unity with the pilots?? To be honest with you, I would be embarrassed to be making 20,000 after all the training. Everybody from the outside is shocked when they hear what pilots are making.
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