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RyanSD 06-03-2008 05:35 PM

Pinnacle??
 
How's the commute out of Rapid City, SD for Pinnacle? How long on reserve? How often would I be able to be at home with the family? Geezzz.... is there anything else I should be asking about? Anything is helpful guys and I do appreciate it.

downinthegroove 06-03-2008 05:41 PM

Ask spooled. She will give you the short version of Family Guys Peter getting castrated.

downinthegroove 06-03-2008 05:42 PM

Ok, that was knee jerk. We will go with vasectomy.

Spooled 06-03-2008 05:46 PM

Do a search for information on Pinnacle. Unfortunately, we are about the only place hiring right now...

I don't think there are many jumpseaters out of Rapid. A few NWA guys I know of..

Reserve I'd guess to be 6 months? MSP is going really senior now, since the reduction of flying.

Count on getting 10 days off a month for about 8 months. You can plan on losing a day each time you commute. More than likely it would be RAP-MSP-DTW/MEM. Have fun with that! Tons of commuters from MSP-DTW.

$600 take home every two weeks on first year pay... Hope you have a sugar momma.

Spooled 06-03-2008 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by downinthegroove (Post 396324)
Ask spooled. She will give you the short version of Family Guys Peter getting castrated.


LOL. I'm in a good mood. Surprising since I've had 1 day off in the last 9 days!! I think I'm too burned out to be ****ed off.

tpersuit 06-03-2008 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Spooled (Post 396332)
LOL. I'm in a good mood. Surprising since I've had 1 day off in the last 9 days!! I think I'm too burned out to be ****ed off.

How do you guys manage working there? I commute from LAX to EWR and with my 11-12 days off a month on reserve, I still manage to only lose only 1-2 of my off days. Usually able to fly in and leave on work days and I have to cross the entire freakin' country. I'm from Minnesota by the way and turned down ever going to Mesaba and Pinnacle. Funny thing is I can usually get 1-2 overnights in MSP to hang out with the family or friends.

norskman2 06-03-2008 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by RyanSD (Post 396317)
How's the commute out of Rapid City, SD for Pinnacle? How long on reserve? How often would I be able to be at home with the family? Geezzz.... is there anything else I should be asking about? Anything is helpful guys and I do appreciate it.

Beware! Other threads on this board will give details on how QOL and morale are somewhere between fair and miserable depending on who to talk to. A two-leg commute may quickly move you a lot closer to the miserable end of the scale. Not to say don't come to Pinnacle, but just aware of what you're getting into.

Airsupport 06-03-2008 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Spooled (Post 396332)
LOL. I'm in a good mood. Surprising since I've had 1 day off in the last 9 days!! I think I'm too burned out to be ****ed off.

now come on spooled. if you are as senior as you say you are then there is no way you have just 1 day off in 9 unless you did it to yourself. drop me a pm and i will show you the magic that is pref bid. life is good and i can show you how!


Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 396339)
How do you guys manage working there? I commute from LAX to EWR and with my 11-12 days off a month on reserve, I still manage to only lose only 1-2 of my off days. Usually able to fly in and leave on work days and I have to cross the entire freakin' country. I'm from Minnesota by the way and turned down ever going to Mesaba and Pinnacle. Funny thing is I can usually get 1-2 overnights in MSP to hang out with the family or friends.


we have several guys that commute from lax to dtw mem and msp. and they do just fine. you have to take what spooled says with a CAN of salt. :)

nicholasblonde 06-03-2008 09:10 PM

You can hold a CDO/hispeed line that is 100% commutable that gives you 10-11 days off within 2 months in Memphis. Look at the June '08 awards. There are people waaaaaay junior with 11-10 off, and that's 11-10 hard days off, as in your last day you're done at 8-9AMish and your first day you report at 6PMish (if you can even call them hispeeds out of Memphis anyways). Bottom line--you get 6-7 hours of sleep, so it's like a "hispeed light," and your 10 days off you will be at home, assuming you get a CDO line, which is easy to get right now.

The people I've heard complain are Memphis captains and MSP FOs Probably b/c those are senior bases for each as far as I know.

Seems like we're nearing well-staffed on the FO side. Plenty of new hires in the pipeline, and with the TDYs from MSP things seem to be balancing out.

I am a little tired of hearing MSP based FOs complaining about deadheading to DTW and MEM all the time to fly...change your frigging base or quit whining about it. We're always welcoming down here in the dirty south.

Spooled 06-04-2008 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 396434)
now come on spooled. if you are as senior as you say you are then there is no way you have just 1 day off in 9 unless you did it to yourself. drop me a pm and i will show you the magic that is pref bid. life is good and i can show you how!

Or did spooled upgrade recently?

Also if you have training in a month, pref bid screws you.

Airsupport 06-04-2008 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Spooled (Post 396641)
Or did spooled upgrade recently?

Also if you have training in a month, pref bid screws you.

well congrats if you just upgraded. are you in dtw? i figure i will go for it in a few more months when i can gaurantee i dont have to sit reserve. and yes if you have training then pref bid will screw you. i cant wait till august though. i have one of my weeks of vacation then. i plan on putting all my bids so that i fly during that 12 day spread. than i will SLIDE it around and see if i can get most of the month off. but then again we will have to see if they will even follow the ruling for the july bid first. to bad the arbitrator didn't make them have a specific date when they had to start complying.

and what do you think of this. since non of us can see how the company is running the bids whats to stop them from plugging in the vacations before they run it, then after the results are done removing the vacation before posting it.

Spooled 06-04-2008 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by nicholasblonde (Post 396469)
I am a little tired of hearing MSP based FOs complaining about deadheading to DTW and MEM all the time to fly...change your frigging base or quit whining about it. We're always welcoming down here in the dirty south.

I don't think they would be complaining if we got paid 100% for deadheads! If you think someone would change their base because of a deadhead, you're pretty clueless.
I hope you your next trip is full of deadheads...So you can see how it feels.

HIREME 06-04-2008 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 396434)
now come on spooled. if you are as senior as you say you are then there is no way you have just 1 day off in 9 unless you did it to yourself. drop me a pm and i will show you the magic that is pref bid. life is good and i can show you how!




we have several guys that commute from lax to dtw mem and msp. and they do just fine. you have to take what spooled says with a CAN of salt. :)

one day, if you need the money/want to move on, you will upgrade. Once you do, the "magic" of prefbid runs out and crew sched. will rule you for a few months. Lately it's been ok for me though

jelloy683 06-04-2008 06:58 AM

Are they rigid on the 1000/200 requirement?

Airsupport 06-04-2008 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by HIREME (Post 396652)
one day, if you need the money/want to move on, you will upgrade. Once you do, the "magic" of prefbid runs out and crew sched. will rule you for a few months. Lately it's been ok for me though

oh i plan on upgrading. my seniority is in the mid 600's so i should be able to get the vacancy i want (unless they stop upgrades). i will pick a class date that will be in the middle or beginning of the month. upgrade looks like it last 1 month and 2 weeks. so i should be done intime to bid for the next month. so if all goes according to plan, screw scheduling will only have me for 2 weeks.

HIREME 06-04-2008 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 396658)
oh i plan on upgrading. my seniority is in the mid 600's so i should be able to get the vacancy i want (unless they stop upgrades). i will pick a class date that will be in the middle or beginning of the month. upgrade looks like it last 1 month and 2 weeks. so i should be done intime to bid for the next month. so if all goes according to plan, screw scheduling will only have me for 2 weeks.

great idea...mid 600s should get you at least a high speed line. I prefer those anyway in order to be home every day.

rickB 06-04-2008 07:48 AM

how about commuting from charlotte?

mooney 06-04-2008 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by nicholasblonde (Post 396469)
You can hold a CDO/hispeed line that is 100% commutable that gives you 10-11 days off within 2 months in Memphis. Look at the June '08 awards. There are people waaaaaay junior with 11-10 off, and that's 11-10 hard days off, as in your last day you're done at 8-9AMish and your first day you report at 6PMish (if you can even call them hispeeds out of Memphis anyways). Bottom line--you get 6-7 hours of sleep, so it's like a "hispeed light," and your 10 days off you will be at home, assuming you get a CDO line, which is easy to get right now.

The people I've heard complain are Memphis captains and MSP FOs Probably b/c those are senior bases for each as far as I know.

Seems like we're nearing well-staffed on the FO side. Plenty of new hires in the pipeline, and with the TDYs from MSP things seem to be balancing out.

I am a little tired of hearing MSP based FOs complaining about deadheading to DTW and MEM all the time to fly...change your frigging base or quit whining about it. We're always welcoming down here in the dirty south.

I'm not sure that I'd call a CDO line "commutable" any more that any other line. Sure, you start late on day 1 and finish early on last day, but you still are sitting at a crashpad for 10 hours a day 3-4 days a week with your thumb up your butt, unless you'd rather be sitting around in ops for 10 hours a day :eek:

So yes, you will have 10 hard days of a month at home, but you'll still need a crashpad on 1 year fo salary. It depends on which is the lesser of 2 evils for you.

Airsupport 06-04-2008 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 396731)
unless you'd rather be sitting around in ops for 10 hours a day :eek:


of course thats what i would rather do!! man listen, i don't know what goes on in the other bases but in mem you want to be in ops all day. once the push is done head into the tv room with the pool table. then just wait. pretty soon the rampers come in and you have a full fledged pool tournement going on. its fun watching them try to hustle eachother!!! ahahaha. that is until SG comes in and tells them this is the crew member area...

mooney 06-04-2008 08:29 AM

oh yeah and by the time he gets a job here we should have that cute masseuse down in ops.....happy ending anyone? :p

cencal83406 06-04-2008 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by jelloy683 (Post 396654)
Are they rigid on the 1000/200 requirement?


ROFLMAO!!! Wowzers, my sides hurt from laughing so hard. 1000/200 requirement? Since when'd we have that?

In all seriousness, if you look a tad closer, it's preferred mins. According to some (and even in my class), there were guys with 190/10 or so.

What are your hours? If you're low time they *may* or may not ask you to take an "RJ Transition Course".... that's when I'd go home and just write it in*

(disclaimer: I don't actually think you should lie on your resumé/application)

Window_Seat 06-04-2008 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by cencal83406 (Post 396840)
ROFLMAO!!! Wowzers, my sides hurt from laughing so hard. 1000/200 requirement? Since when'd we have that?

In all seriousness, if you look a tad closer, it's preferred mins. According to some (and even in my class), there were guys with 190/10 or so.

What are your hours? If you're low time they *may* or may not ask you to take an "RJ Transition Course".... that's when I'd go home and just write it in*

(disclaimer: I don't actually think you should lie on your resumé/application)

Why is it that Pinnacle can only get kids with 250 hours?

mooney 06-04-2008 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 396941)
Why is it that Pinnacle can only get kids with 250 hours?


same reason most of the other regionals are too i guess....:rolleyes:

av8sean 06-04-2008 11:59 AM

1000/200 is firm unless you went to a transition course.

Commuting sucks, I live in Detroit and have a highspeed line. I basically get paid for sleeping and occasionally flying 45 mins here and there a few times a week. Life isn't that bad.

cencal83406 06-04-2008 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by av8sean (Post 396966)
1000/200 is firm unless you went to a transition course.

Commuting sucks, I live in Detroit and have a highspeed line. I basically get paid for sleeping and occasionally flying 45 mins here and there a few times a week. Life isn't that bad.

It may be firm.... but that doesn't explain to me how I could have possibly gotten the job without the transition course.

Rama04 06-04-2008 06:06 PM

Apparantly, they have a good commuting policy compared to other airlines. You have to have 2 flights to make, if you miss the first one, call up. When you miss the second, they should have a replacement for you. Even if they cant find a replacement, your off the hook.

norskman2 06-04-2008 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Rama04 (Post 397320)
Apparantly, they have a good commuting policy compared to other airlines. You have to have 2 flights to make, if you miss the first one, call up. When you miss the second, they should have a replacement for you. Even if they cant find a replacement, your off the hook.

True. But be warned. Most of the commuters here seem pretty miserable. QOL right now is tough enough for those living in base.

Spooled 06-04-2008 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Rama04 (Post 397320)
Apparantly, they have a good commuting policy compared to other airlines. You have to have 2 flights to make, if you miss the first one, call up. When you miss the second, they should have a replacement for you. Even if they cant find a replacement, your off the hook.

Off the hook after a carpet dance. And you can only use it (call in honest) 2 times a year.


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