Jumpseating on Skywest
11-23-2009, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboyrw
Just to also throw something in...
I was in SFO trying to go to RDD on skywest, and they could only take 27 people, and the gate agent said they had 18 bags. I was denied, due to weight. Is this normal? I know the emb120 is always restricted, but at sea level with cooler temps and long runways?
I was in SFO trying to go to RDD on skywest, and they could only take 27 people, and the gate agent said they had 18 bags. I was denied, due to weight. Is this normal? I know the emb120 is always restricted, but at sea level with cooler temps and long runways?
11-23-2009, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RPJ80
Sorry to bring back the dead but I have a question. Vision Airlines (V2) is a CASS participant and we do have a reciprocal agreement with SkyWest. Vision does not have agreements with Delta or United at this time. Could I still jumpseat on all SkyWest flights?
As for Delta connection... you should not have any problems with any Delta Connection (DCI) carriers you have an agreement with... cockpit or cabin. Each DCI has autonomous authority over its own jumpseat list in the computer system.... which is NOT true on the United Express side.
11-23-2009, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TBucket
I would guess yes... Otherwise, that agreement with skywest would be pretty useless...
So, vision, eh? What's the deal with those unmarked 767's they always have parked out in IAD?
So, vision, eh? What's the deal with those unmarked 767's they always have parked out in IAD?
I asked the Dulles controllers one night, and he said "I can't tell you that, but all I can say is it rhymes with ambition."
All I can come up with is rendition airplanes for the CIA.
Makes sense. I'm always very happy when I see one of them gone. Means they must be taking some turdmonger terrorist back to where he belongs.... and giving him exactly what he deserves.
11-23-2009, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishTiger
I asked the Dulles controllers one night, and he said "I can't tell you that, but all I can say is it rhymes with ambition."
All I can come up with is rendition airplanes for the CIA.
Makes sense. I'm always very happy when I see one of them gone. Means they must be taking some turdmonger terrorist back to where he belongs.... and giving him exactly what he deserves.
All I can come up with is rendition airplanes for the CIA.
Makes sense. I'm always very happy when I see one of them gone. Means they must be taking some turdmonger terrorist back to where he belongs.... and giving him exactly what he deserves.
I did a little googling, and apparently the vision pilots are suing the company for not giving them the hazard pay the government is giving the airline for their takeoffs/landings in iraq/afghanistan... Bet that's some crazy flying though...
11-23-2009, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishTiger
I asked the Dulles controllers one night, and he said "I can't tell you that, but all I can say is it rhymes with ambition."
All I can come up with is rendition airplanes for the CIA.
All I can come up with is rendition airplanes for the CIA.
Originally Posted by TBucket
I did a little googling, and apparently the vision pilots are suing the company for not giving them the hazard pay the government is giving the airline for their takeoffs/landings in iraq/afghanistan... Bet that's some crazy flying though...
11-23-2009, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ophir
You should ask to speak with the crew in this situation. The agent is just getting a number from Ops with the limits and has no idea what it means. There are instances when the a/c is an aft galley config that adding a jumpseater, in the actual, allows you to take more payload due to the balancing effect on CG.
SKYW seems to have adopted this policy, along with many other airlines, that getting out on time trumps taking ALL the people that want to go to their destination. Getting out on time should be a goal, not an absolute. If we can take one more person, it is worth the delay. That is what we are in business for.
SKYW seems to have adopted this policy, along with many other airlines, that getting out on time trumps taking ALL the people that want to go to their destination. Getting out on time should be a goal, not an absolute. If we can take one more person, it is worth the delay. That is what we are in business for.
11-23-2009, 09:42 PM
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yea I doubt the gate agent said anything to the crew... I have never heard an agent tell us "hey there is a OAL jumpseater wanting to get on...." especially in a hub.
I have even had been denied the jumpseat on skywest after talking to the captain and had him waving me to come out because the weights worked for me to sit up front but the gate agent (skywest gate agent) wouldnt let me out the door... (LONG STORY)... AND I WORK FOR SKYWEST...
I have even had been denied the jumpseat on skywest after talking to the captain and had him waving me to come out because the weights worked for me to sit up front but the gate agent (skywest gate agent) wouldnt let me out the door... (LONG STORY)... AND I WORK FOR SKYWEST...
11-24-2009, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboyrw
Just to also throw something in...
I was in SFO trying to go to RDD on skywest, and they could only take 27 people, and the gate agent said they had 18 bags. I was denied, due to weight. Is this normal? I know the emb120 is always restricted, but at sea level with cooler temps and long runways?
I was in SFO trying to go to RDD on skywest, and they could only take 27 people, and the gate agent said they had 18 bags. I was denied, due to weight. Is this normal? I know the emb120 is always restricted, but at sea level with cooler temps and long runways?
BOW: 17,900 lbs
27 PAX: 5,265 lbs
18 Checked: 540 lbs (assuming no heavy’s…..?)
10 Gate checked: 300 lbs
ZFW: 24,030 lbs
17900 + 5,265 + 540 + 300 = 24,005 leaves only 25 lbs.
If it were myself and I had know, I'd jam ever last seat and overhead with 6 carry-on's freeing up 180 lbs (180 +25 = 205 lbs)
Also understand that dispatch usually looks at the PAX booked, nonrev’s and bags and increases release fuel in order to tanker into outstations where fuel prices are much higher. There was the chance that the crew became aware of you too late and had already filled up.
If I was a betting man I’d bet that the gate agent never told the crew.
11-24-2009, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyer2000
Unfortunately, if you do not have an agreement with UAL you cannot be allowed in the cockpit jumpseat of ANY UAX carrier. You SHOULD be able to cabin jumpseat on any UAX carrier you have an agreement with, but agents don't always know where to look in their system.
As for Delta connection... you should not have any problems with any Delta Connection (DCI) carriers you have an agreement with... cockpit or cabin. Each DCI has autonomous authority over its own jumpseat list in the computer system.... which is NOT true on the United Express side.
As for Delta connection... you should not have any problems with any Delta Connection (DCI) carriers you have an agreement with... cockpit or cabin. Each DCI has autonomous authority over its own jumpseat list in the computer system.... which is NOT true on the United Express side.
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