XJT Just Published Severence Package
 

ExpressJet just published a severance package for all employees including pilots. Furloughs are next.

I agree, but hopefully some really senior farts will take this and help mitigate the amount furloughed. Still, I wouldn't expect furloughs until Sept-Oct.

Any details?

Furloughs are next? You mean after these Early Outs, COLAs, FlyBe, attrition, No-Fly Lines, and Job Shares...right?

Severance pay, travel benefits, and medical benefits

Geez I wish AMR would do that. We get a swift kick out the door, I guess:(

I just hope we can get the company to go for that stuff - I guess they did last time. We also need to make sure the lines are all reduced to MMG, maybe we could even talk them into reducing the MMG to 65-70 hours. I, like you am not in danger of going to the street but we need to try to keep all of our guys here.

What happened at Express Jet?..not being insensitive....I have not heard what is going on...good luck.

Yeah, I forgot to mention the reduction of the line divisor to MMG. I'm not sure about lowering below that though. But I do think the company is open to No-Fly Lines (although probably not at the same value as last time) and Job Sharing. I agree that we need to keep as many guys employed here as possible. Do I know you?

New CPA with CAL that pays a straight block rate and the parking of 29 aircraft.

You guys are going to be flying for FlyBe?

They are hiring 40 XJT pilots.

That was nice of them...

I guess they really like our pilots.

management has said time & time again, they will take everything seriously, no matter how crazy it sounds, to mitigate furloughs (if)

maybe even job share :)

When Express Jet became the highest paid regional pilots in the industry, did that out price them of a contract with Continental?

Its a shame that ithe regional market just doesn't support top dollar wages. While the union did a credible thing getting the highest pay rates ever for regional pilots, it may have "bit the hand that feeds them."

Isn't FLYBE a european airline?

I'm pretty sure they just signed a new CPA with Continental a few weeks ago for 7 years.

Well, unfortunately theres only one place to go when your on top.........and we all now where that is, just look at Air whiskey, us, and Comair........

So essentially, because most other regionals pilot costs are less (or less work rules), they inherently are "cheaper", CAL has been saying this to us all along we are not "on par with other regional airline costs"

Why the majors don't have their own flying done by their own employees is beyond me. Also a ton of XJT stations are closing and going to American Airlines...........just does not make sense......


PS Anyone working the Comair flight tomorrow its a 10:55am Dep CVG-EWR, mind if I take the Jumpseat ;)

Yep.. Pretty good company.. THey have Q400's, E190-195's, E145, and BAE-146's

To be clear, FlyBe is NOT hiring XJT pilots. Flybe is experiencing a declining fleet situation as they transition from the 145 to the Q's and larger EMB airframes.

As a result of this, they STILL need to staff what 145's are still there. They have gone through various crew leasing/contract agencies to fill the short term demand they are having on the 145. The first I saw on the job was through PARC Aviation a few months ago saying they needed EMB145 CA's and FO's for a short term contract in the UK. Of course, they preferred EU/JAA license holders but stated they would accept FAA tickets as well.

Now, as that relates to XJT. ANOTHER contract agency (not PARC) has contacted XJT to see if any of our pilots would be interested in the flying, needing the stated 40 pilots. We, the ordinary line pilots, are still pretty much in the dark as to the EXACT details of the contract. It vaguely mentioned something about "accommodations", "rostering", etc. But like I said, we STILL don't have ALL the details involved in the contract. A big one being the compensation offered, as well as the penalty if the contract is broken early by the pilot. Another big thing is how they are going to handle the JAA validations, or the temporary validations, right to work/abode. etc.

To be clear, FlyBe IS NOT HIRING XJT pilots. Besides, do you think that FlyBe, being a BALPA carrier would allow that?

http://www.balpa.org.uk/intranet/Join-BALPA/index.htm

Who knows, maybe they will. But if they DID, you would probably be required to go through their own selection process, as well as do a JAA conversion for those not already holding an unrestricted JAA certificate. Yep, you can do a short course if you have certain criteria met. But it's still a bit of a PITA process.

Again, to be clear, NO XJT pilots are getting hired at FlyBe at this time, nor for this short term contract. The pilots that are going to be going will be employed by the contract agency and then leased to FlyBe.

How much are the XJT FlyBe guys going to be getting paid in contrast to the rest of the FlyBe pilots?

Whats a job share?

Yes, they want 40 of our pilots to fly their 145's when they transition there pilots over to the EMB-190's.


They have heard good things about our pilot group, as well as heard a rumor we were "over-staffed" :), so our company is offering Leaves of Absence for those that would like to fly out of Sweden for a year ;)

Swedish chicks are hot.. If i was a XJet pilot i would do it just so i could go over there and get my Pologamy on!:D

See my above post, we don't have the EXACT details yet on pay. PARC was offering 4000 GBP for the FO seat. But after taxes and all that, probably around 18-2000 take home. I know, sounds like a a lot. But if you go to the UK, it's not much. Like I said, they mentioned something about accommodations, but we still don't know for sure.

Job share will be whatever our MEC negotiates with management. But our FA's have had it for a while. You find another pilot, senior pilot bids the line. Then you two split it up, usually at the senior pilots discretion. Two pilots "share" ONE line fo flying. Of course, there may be a cap on pick up, etc. Works good for guys that may not need the money due to sugar mommas, other income streams, etc.

Dude, it's NOT Sweden although I believe I saw that on their route map. I believe the crew bases are Manchester and Birmingham. PARC was also offering Exeter.

And yeah, U.K. chicks can be hot too, especially when they say the word naughty. But it wouldn't kill some of them to make a trip to the dentist.

Yeah, I'm aware of all of it. For the sake of an XJT furlough conversation I thought my version would suffice rather than a 6 paragraph, 344 word explanation. Sorry, I was feeling a little lazy.;)

Good, because in the process I just diffused about what would probably be 10 pages of thread drift over the usual FAA vs. JAA crap and everything that goes along with it.

If XJT furloughs.... any idea about how many would be affected?

150-500 is my guess.

500 is way too high of a number

Considering that there are 2793 currently on the seniority list and with the fleet plan of 245 aircraft, I don't see more than 343 furloughs. But with Early Outs, COLAs, FlyBe, attrition, No-Fly Lines, 75 hour line divisor, and Job Shares I could see that number reduced considerably.