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wasnt sure myself so I looked it up earlier and it is june of next year
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Originally Posted by xjsaab
(Post 422861)
Isn't farnborough coming up soon. Ok so maybe my source didn't know what he was talking about.
14 - 20 July 2008 Farnborough International Airshow http://www.farnborough.com/Site/Content/intro.aspx Bombardier Aerospace Chalet Number: C1 - 3, OE20 Static Display Aircraft Bombardier Dash8 Q300 Field Aviation/Swedish Coast Guard Dash 8 Q400 CRJ 900 Global 5000 Challenger 605 Learjet 60 XR |
Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
(Post 422051)
More CRJ900 for Mesaba ?
Compass sold to improve cash position ? |
Originally Posted by G2TT
(Post 423341)
Wow that gets you guys excited. I don't know what would make you happier, more 900's or to get rid of Compass.
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Originally Posted by G2TT
(Post 423341)
Wow that gets you guys excited. I don't know what would make you happier, more 900's or to get rid of Compass.
Selling Compass is not getting rid of them if it raises cash and NWA writes a regional support contract with the new owners. It could protect Compass pilots from NWA furlough displacements. I'll let one of the NWA contract experts correct me but I believe that "if Compass aircraft are sold" it clears the way for Mesaba to add up to fifty four more CRJ900s. |
Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
(Post 423459)
"You guys ????" Am not nor ever been a Mesaba or Compass employee. Trying to look at what makes good "business sense" for NWA (eventually Big D).
Selling Compass is not getting rid of them if it raises cash and NWA writes a regional support contract with the new owners. It could protect Compass pilots from NWA furlough displacements. I'll let one of the NWA contract experts correct me but I believe that "if Compass aircraft are sold" it clears the way for Mesaba to add up to fifty four more CRJ900s. Unlike the current NWA CBA, the JPWA (joint pilot working agreement) does not have language that prevents or restricts the sale of CPS so that can be done after the deal closes. If the flow up/down is not maintained at CPS/DAL, the number of 71 to 76 seat jets that can be flown at the regionals is reduced by 35. Only 120 71 to 76 seat jets can be flown under the JPWA (until the mainline fleet grows). CP: 36 XJ: 36 Comair: 13 SKW: 17 (I think they are configured to 70 seats) RAH: 15 (I think) MAG: 14 PCL: 16 Total: 130 to 147 depending on if SKW has 70 or 76 seat configurations If these numbers are correct, there is no more room for growth in the 71 to 76 seat market. Please correct me if they are not correct. I know that they might be getting rid of 9E but that would still put them over the limit of 76 seaters. I wonder if they plan on reducing some to 70 seats. There is room for 255 total RJs that are more than 50 seats. I don't know where they are in that number. |
Originally Posted by Schwartz
(Post 423559)
If these numbers are correct, there is no more room for growth in the 71 to 76 seat market. Please correct me if they are not correct.
I believe the number of 70-76 seaters is 200. MAG lost their 900 flying and if PNC continues to struggle, that will leave approximately 35 open. I would look for a wholly owned from the NWA merger to get those and keep profits in house. |
Originally Posted by Schwartz
(Post 423559)
I know that they might be getting rid of 9E
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Originally Posted by DeltaPaySoon
(Post 423565)
I believe the number of 70-76 seaters is 200. MAG lost their 900 flying and if PNC continues to struggle, that will leave approximately 35 open. I would look for a wholly owned from the NWA merger to get those and keep profits in house.
Originally Posted by Rook
(Post 423566)
What are you basing this on? Is it because they're not wholly owned, Or because of the lack of a contract. No flame please.
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Originally Posted by DeltaPaySoon
(Post 423565)
I believe the number of 70-76 seaters is 200. MAG lost their 900 flying and if PNC continues to struggle, that will leave approximately 35 open. I would look for a wholly owned from the NWA merger to get those and keep profits in house.
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