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Lou Reed 07-11-2008 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by investmjhl (Post 423271)
Can anyone tell me about hiring pools? I was in the first interview for the pool, when I was called she said there are only about 8 in the pool. My question is do they go in order of your interview date or do they pick the most qualified of the now 100+ in the pool? Thanks for any info.




I was supposed to be in the June 30 class and when i got the call i was told i was #18 in the pool. You sure there are over 100 now??? I know they've interviewed a few times.

12fly 07-11-2008 03:00 PM

I interviewed on June 24. At that time there were 60 people in the pool and I know they have not interviewed anyone since then. So I think I'm number 60 ...way at the bottom. http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...ons/icon12.gif

Colnago 07-11-2008 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 422489)
WEll when it comes to making decent money what a lot of you need to realize is that $29/hour does not always translate into a decent paycheck... At an airline you have a guaranteed number of hours paid... teaching you could get 80 hours one month, and 20-30 the next 8 months (as has been the case with me)... I sit around for 6 of my 8-10 hours I am at work doing nothing because of a drop off in student interest. Don't ever look at the dollars per hour and think that should be a selling point... if there are no students, you will be filing for welfare and food stamps in no time...

I agree with you fully. I am currently flight instructing and though the work and flight experience I've obtained is immensely useful to me, the paycheck is something I always struggle with. Depending on where you instruct, you are either salaried, or as is the case in most places, paid by the flight hour and any pre/post brief time.

The worst part about instructing where I am is my paycheck is so dependent on weather and students. This summer, I'm mainly working with primary PPL students and usually get weathered all the time. The highest I've ever had in a paycheck was 56 hours in two weeks. That's pretty miserable at the pay rate I earn.

Of course, if you have enough dual given, you can go to the better flight schools. Unfortunately, as is the case for me, it takes money to move, which I don't have so I'm stuck in this hole. ;)

I've had my few hours instructing and could definitely use a more steady job with which I can budget a minimum monthly guarantee. As it is now, I can't budget worth a damn!

investmjhl 07-12-2008 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by Lou Reed (Post 423751)
I was supposed to be in the June 30 class and when i got the call i was told i was #18 in the pool. You sure there are over 100 now??? I know they've interviewed a few times.

When did you interview? I interviewed on June 11th. and was called on Monday the 16th.

cleared2land 07-12-2008 09:32 AM

Opinions are like...you know the rest.

People have said Kobe should have gone to college before the NBA. I say get what you can while you can. There will be CFI work if you need it later. Why would you build time as a CFI for a jet job when you can have a jet job first. It's been pointed out it would be better to have an airline to go back to if the worst should happen. Guaranteed job? I checked snopes and they said it was a false rumor. Get the degree for sure. I'm not sure your gonna get hired without it.

That's my opionion...refer to line one.

Lou Reed 07-12-2008 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by investmjhl (Post 424096)
When did you interview? I interviewed on June 11th. and was called on Monday the 16th.


I interviewed in May but it took them a while to get back to me with a yes/no. And when I got the yes and the class date, it was prob a week or so before this all went down. I just hope they pass some info to us soon and not have us waiting til sept 30 now!

nicholasblonde 07-12-2008 02:02 PM

I wouldn't worry too much unless someone started talking about trying to mess with our NWA contract. Last I heard we still have some attrition...but the company won't hire to cover any attrition until the ATL thing is 100% resolved.

A lot of interrelated events will develop between now and November (merger vote, hopefully more contract negotiations here, ATL flying decisions, fuel pries, US economy, and Presidential election outcome). Anyone who thinks they can predict ANYTHING for ANY airline, especially this one, in light of all of that stuff happening, doesn't have a clue!!!

nicholasblonde 07-12-2008 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Lou Reed (Post 424325)
I interviewed in May but it took them a while to get back to me with a yes/no. And when I got the yes and the class date, it was prob a week or so before this all went down. I just hope they pass some info to us soon and not have us waiting til sept 30 now!

Look on the bright side, maybe we'll have a new contract before you guys start training. I'd personally rather wait it out if I were in your boat...the extra motivation of a few extra bucks to look forward to will help you stay sharp and focused during training!!!

PoBugSmasher 07-13-2008 05:15 PM

Assumptions about CFI Jobs
 
Interview if it's offered. Get in a pool, if you can. Maybe the airline will survive, and you'll get a call in a few years. It may be the only way to get an airline job, at all.

In the meantime, finish school and get a CFI job, now, if you can. I think many here are not seeing the big picture here when they say "you can always get a CFI job". I don't think that's true anymore, or at least it won't be in a more few months. Hundreds of more qualified, experienced, CFIs are in the process of being furloughed from the Regionals (myself included). If they don't throw in the towel and leave flying all together, they very well may competing for those better paying, salaried, CFI jobs with health bennies.

I have several CFI friends who are working at FBOs and smaller schools that are calling me, asking about for other CFI jobs. They have lost most of their students due to fuel prices and the economy. General Aviation in general is the middle of a drastic decline. All of this sh*t rolls down hill. None of the old assumptions are valid right now. Just my $.02

Mason32 07-14-2008 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 422254)
Personally, I'd rather have a number and airline to go back to, than no number at all. Personally.


Tell that to about 400 Eagle guys with AA numbers....

hasn't helped them much in the last ten years....

having marketable skills,,,, such as being a CFI/CFII is a fallback for when your enjoying having that wonderful airline number and no pay.

grow up


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