14 Freedom RJs parked in KFLO
 

I flew into Florence SC yesterday and noticed 14 Freedom Embraers parked there. I thought they had gotten an injunction that prevented Delta from cancelling their flying. Does anyone know why they have so many airplanes parked there?

Parked them there about a month ago. Delta reduced, then cancelled most of our flying. The other 22 are "in service." By that I mean sitting at outstations and at JFK/ATL/MCO, waiting to fly uncovered flights by other DCI carriers.

Delta is still paying us enough for the leases and crews of the airplanes. Once the appeal goes through, we will likely lose that income.

Freedom is getting a lot of flying back in September are they not?

Comair is losing a lot of JFK flying come September, and it's more than just rollbacks..from what i've heard Freedom is flying chunks of the schedule they had earlier this year.

yeah they are supposed to be doing some of asa's flying

Its all part of DAL's game. Since they lost the injunction, they need evidence of poor performance to cancel the contract. By giving Freedom the flying back and then some, they have more flights and more flights with poor performance giving DAL reason to cancel the contract when their appeal is heard in the court. Especially a lot the flying out of JFK which is a curse on on-time performance.

I was thinking this exact same thing. That they were going to overload MESA again, and just keep track of everything
and then boom...it's heard and court, and it's cancelled.

Hopefully good news for the Comair/ASA guys.

Any news on a court date yet...or is it still "sometime next year?"

I believe its all part of JO's understaffing/running a crapbag operation game. You're not in Mesa CRJ ground school now are you? If you are, that probably explains your JO koolaid post.

You will start to see more Freedom flights in CVG come September as well, and they also got a little "extra" flying out JFK this fall. My guess is DL will keep playing their little game and overload F8 and set them up for failure this fall, so they can go bring the numbers to court next year.

"Any one that work for MESA is supporting the demise our brothers and sisters in this industry."

I don't think so. I've helped a Mesa guy get a job at UPS and have seen two other Mesa buddies go to Delta and America West. I don't believe the average line guy deserves to be scorned. They are just working stiffs like the rest of us and chose Mesa for their own personal reasons. Blast JO to your hearts content but I think blasting the Mesa pilot group is highly misplaced.

The last time I check we are all free to form our own openion in this country and I respect yours. This might not be reality but just my own opinion.
Have a great night.

So are you guys getting paid to sit at home until further notice? And what do you mean that you will lose that income? Are you assuming that you will lose the appeal?

She is hot. :p

No, I'm in one of the few Comair classes that got started and whipsawed to pending furlough due to Mesa keeping their 900 flying contract.

In a word, yes, the Freedom ERJ guys are on 24 hour call-out, getting minimum guarantee.

When Delta lost the injunction, they had to resume paying us.

At first, the ERJ guys were sitting around, not flying and getting paid. Now the flying is slowly coming back up, as Delta didn't see it fit to pay us for doing nothing.

So, yes, if Delta wins the appeal (which they likely will) we will lose that money, since we will lose the contract entirely.

Bossman-

The -900 contract was never in jeopordy.

Only the ERJ contract was cancelled.

You're free to have you opinion, and I don't fault you for it (I work at Mesa). When your opinion is flamebait, the mods get involved.

Sorry you house such ill feelings towards us.

"When your opinion is flamebait, the mods get involved."

While I don't disagree with that, my post above was simply my opinion as a user, nothing to do with being a mod.

True but your "openions" demonstrate your ignorance and lack of edukashun/experience. :eek:

The only ASA flying that Freedom got was a temporary fill in for the flights we need to CX due to that fantastic night we had in BTR last week. When we are recovered from that incident freedom wont fly those routes for us anymore.

I think AIRSUPPORT might have a thing against ASA??

I agree with the freedom of opinions. What annoys me though is how some of you guys that where fortunate enough to get hired with an airline that supports your so called QOL, can come to the conclussion that MESA is the lynch pin that prevents you from somehow having this supposedly higher QOL than what you currently have. I honestly dont think there is any way your idea of what life at a regional airline will ever be sated. Your rapatious appetite for a higher QOL is never enough. As I have stated before, if MESA was to go under you guys would just go to the next airline that is paying less than you and bash that one to...ad infintum, it never ends. Like I said in previous post your like a fat old lady with two hams under each arm asking wheres the bread.
If your airline is keeping you down and predicating it's decisions on what MESA is doing, then your beef should be with your airline. And if they cant see what your talking about, then why dont you guys quit to make a statement? Clean up your own house and yard first. Then feel free to hate on MESA all you want.

This is not an "appeal." The case has not been heard yet. Freedom or Mesa requested an injunction, which prevents DAL from cancelling the contract without a court ruling, and basically gives the connection guys their day in court. I wouldn't count on DAL automatically winning - anything can happen in a courtroom, but as always plan for the worst and hope for the best.

Scoop

This is exactly what I, and many others at Mesa, are doing.

Most of us have a plan B.

yeah i have a thing against my buddies job. he has only been there 26 years in management. dont be stupid.