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Superpilot92 07-14-2008 07:55 AM

this might end up as the DC9 and MD80 replacement for NWA/DAL. NWA has been looking at this plane for a while. The NWA fleet manager told me he has already flown the sim for it. IMHO there is no way this plane would/should go to a regional. Most of the mainline pilot groups seemed to have learned their lesson on scope relaxation and the effects it has. The New DAL scope has actually capped the number of "RJ's" now.

Superpilot92 07-14-2008 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Squawk_5543 (Post 425321)
Who said anything about regionals getting this?? I was under the impression this was a possible replacement for NW's DC-9's.

DAL just said the plan for the DC9s post merger will be that the 30's might get retired next year but the dc9 40's/50's will be around until 2012. ;)

If the numbers are right about the C-series being over 20% more fuel efficient than anything else in that market it should be a good airplane.

Lighteningspeed 07-14-2008 08:05 AM

Calm yourselves people. C series was never intended to be a another RJ. Bombardier got ambitious and decided to compete against Airbus and Boeing. With the massive infusion of Capital from UK, Canada and China, they have launched a mainline jet. It is intended to be a replacement for DC9s, B 717, and Airbus 319/320s.

Personally, having flown Bombardier jets, I am not a fan of Bombardier jets. They are cheaply put together just like Embraer jets. C series will be flown by mainline pilots unless major airlines drastically change their scope clause, which is not likely.

STILL GROUNDED 07-14-2008 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED (Post 425306)
No, the engines are under ther wings and it seats 4 across, so its a mainline aircraft. :rolleyes:
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it's 5 across last time i looked

Don't know much about the thing, the engines are under the wings right? I keep hearing how my EMB170 which seats 76 is a mainline aircraft but a crj 900/1000 is not. Figure it must be engine location or ease of use at a jetway.

Just making a funny, sorry if my facts were a little off. :rolleyes: Let me get someone in my tech department bring me up to speed on this thing.

XJPILOT1 07-14-2008 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED (Post 425306)
No, the engines are under ther wings and it seats 4 across, so its a mainline aircraft. :rolleyes:

I don't want it on the regional fleet either.

Ya, so does a Dash8.

RJtrashPilot 07-14-2008 05:33 PM

The E-190 is considered a mainline aircraft at USAir and is flown by mainline pilots, yet is made by Embraer -- a huge RJ manufacturer.

The same thing (hopefully) will be the case for Bombardier's C-Series.

fjetter 07-14-2008 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot (Post 425728)
The E-190 is considered a mainline aircraft at USAir and is flown by mainline pilots, yet is made by Embraer -- a huge RJ manufacturer.

The same thing (hopefully) will be the case for Bombardier's C-Series.

Exactly, more mainline jobs for everybody!!!:D

AirWillie 07-14-2008 06:25 PM

That's what I was thinking, this isn't a regional aircraft, it's going to be flown by mainline and skywest pilots.:cool:

JungleBus 07-14-2008 09:43 PM

The DL/NW JPWA caps outsourced flying at 76 seats and 86k lbs. The C-series will be outside of both criteria. Any MEC that further loosens scope deserves to be lined up against a E170 and shot.

dojetdriver 07-14-2008 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 425282)
Scope should keep them out of the hands of most US regionals...at least until the next round of bankruptcies.

Yeah, when the magic cutoff number of seats fro scope becomes 130.


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