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Bozo the pilot 06-29-2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by porqueno (Post 1436775)
We were cat II before, we got rid of it because it made our training more expensive

I think it means training 2x year.

PDTPILOT 06-30-2013 04:38 AM

[/QUOTE]

I think it means training 2x year.[/QUOTE]

I don't think so, Airways uses AQP meaning they only train once a year, pretty sure they're Cat II

Bozo the pilot 06-30-2013 05:25 AM

I think it means training 2x year.[/QUOTE]

I don't think so, Airways uses AQP meaning they only train once a year, pretty sure they're Cat II[/QUOTE]

Well thats what they told us in 2011 under that AQP. It wasnt worth the expense as they rarely needed cat II. Anyone else?

BSOuthisplace 06-30-2013 06:12 AM

I don't know where all these cat II rumors are coming from but who cares? How often would we really use it? I can only think of a few times where it would have come in handy as only a handful of airports we operate in have functioning CAT II approaches.

On the other hand RNAV approach capability would be a huge benefit with our operation, but would require a major avionics overhaul.

buddies8 06-30-2013 06:31 AM

if cat II qualified its requirements for alternates are different from what i am told and this would allow company to fly with one alternate instead of two when needed. CAT II the first alternate requirements are lower than the cat I so it is all about saving fuel by virtue of not carrying alternate fuel under cat II when a flight under cat I qualified pilots and aircraft would require an alternate.

MusDg 06-30-2013 07:05 AM

I think it means training 2x year.[/QUOTE]

I don't think so, Airways uses AQP meaning they only train once a year, pretty sure they're Cat II[/QUOTE]

There is a lot of guidance on the training requirements for Cat II. Some depends on how often the pilots have actually gotten to do a Cat II approach to full Cat II minimums. Otherwise there is a restriction that lets you go below Cat I but not all the way to Cat II.

MusDg 06-30-2013 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by porqueno (Post 1436779)
It has pilot in command limitations not SOE limitations

Verbage; it is a limited PIC type that is removed after additional training. Hence the SOE among many other things to be completed.

MusDg 06-30-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by frmrdashtrash (Post 1436895)
How many of those 3000 hr, age 33 plus guys are going to stick around? I'm guessing few. I'm in that bracket you mention. If there was such a thing as a one leg commute and a schedule to take advantage of it I'd go back to Piedmont yesterday. (well, truthfully I'd need the left seat back too......:-))

I'm in that group too. One of us has 29,000 hours and is typed in the DC-9 and 717. He is looking to stick around for a long time unless a flow happens to mainline. The rest of us are looking to stick around as well. I'd say about half currently have an opinion to try and flow to mainline at about the 3-5 year mark or just stick around at PDT if it doesn't happen. Of course it will most likely all depend on what PDT is called and operating in 3-5 years as well. Regardless none of us have expressed any real interest in going any place and just use PDT as a place to fill a void until something better comes along.

Bozo the pilot 06-30-2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace (Post 1437011)
I don't know where all these cat II rumors are coming from but who cares? How often would we really use it? I can only think of a few times where it would have come in handy as only a handful of airports we operate in have functioning CAT II approaches.

On the other hand RNAV approach capability would be a huge benefit with our operation, but would require a major avionics overhaul.

^^^ totally agree. Pdt pilots have way more important things to be concerned about.

frmrdashtrash 06-30-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MusDg (Post 1437057)
Quote:

Originally Posted by frmrdashtrash (Post 1436895)
How many of those 3000 hr, age 33 plus guys are going to stick around? I'm guessing few. I'm in that bracket you mention. If there was such a thing as a one leg commute and a schedule to take advantage of it I'd go back to Piedmont yesterday. (well, truthfully I'd need the left seat back too......:-))

I'm in that group too. One of us has 29,000 hours and is typed in the DC-9 and 717. He is looking to stick around for a long time unless a flow happens to mainline. The rest of us are looking to stick around as well. I'd say about half currently have an opinion to try and flow to mainline at about the 3-5 year mark or just stick around at PDT if it doesn't happen. Of course it will most likely all depend on what PDT is called and operating in 3-5 years as well. Regardless none of us have expressed any real interest in going any place and just use PDT as a place to fill a void until something better comes along.

You're really going to stick around there making 25-35K, get abused by scheduling, and work inefficient AM/PM shifts long term?

If you live in base I can see it. It's really not a bad place to work if that's the case. Lord help you trying to commute though.

l1011 06-30-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frmrdashtrash (Post 1437107)
You're really going to stick around there making 25-35K, get abused by scheduling, and work inefficient AM/PM shifts long term?

If you live in base I can see it. It's really not a bad place to work if that's the case. Lord help you trying to commute though.

They have no idea what they are getting in to, after a year of this BS they will be singing a different tune. The management at this place never ceases to amaze me, and not in a good way.

PDTpilotXX 06-30-2013 10:23 AM

Don't always agree with you L1011, but you're spot on.

theHub 07-02-2013 11:47 AM

I hear we are bidding on a -100. Ex military plane. Low cycles but older than 906.

Bozo the pilot 07-02-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by theHub (Post 1438205)
I hear we are bidding on a -100. Ex military plane. Low cycles but older than 906.

Yea- PDT has always been proactive...:rolleyes:

skyxbomb 07-02-2013 12:16 PM

I thought PSA and PDT is merging :P why else would PSA change their flight numbers to 4000's when our current flight numbers doesn't really conflict with AE.

BSOuthisplace 07-02-2013 12:34 PM

http://gsaauctions.gov/gsaauctions/aucitsrh/#

NuGuy 07-02-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace (Post 1437011)
I don't know where all these cat II rumors are coming from but who cares? How often would we really use it? I can only think of a few times where it would have come in handy as only a handful of airports we operate in have functioning CAT II approaches.

On the other hand RNAV approach capability would be a huge benefit with our operation, but would require a major avionics overhaul.

FWIW everyone was getting CAT II qualified back in 1993. I think I've got my Piedmont CAT II manual sitting up in the closet somewhere.

Nu

FLYING HIGH 07-02-2013 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theHub (Post 1438205)
I hear we are bidding on a -100. Ex military plane. Low cycles but older than 906.

Actually it is newer. 906 is serial #9. The airplane you are talking about is serial #30 about two years newer

crabinow16 07-02-2013 08:15 PM

Please tell me that they will keep the curtains and the uns

PeopleMover90 07-03-2013 06:52 AM

Just curious, how many pilots has PDT hired since July 2012?

porqueno 07-03-2013 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PeopleMover90 (Post 1438554)
Just curious, how many pilots has PDT hired since July 2012?

zero between 5/2012 and 2/2013. 33 on the seniority list between 2/13 and now. They probably hired more than that, but some probably quit or got fired.

porqueno 07-03-2013 06:58 AM

What's the over under on double premium pay this summer? So far my phone has not been ringing for JR mans, so I don't think it's very likely, but there are a slew of FOs getting ready to move to greener pastures.

PDTpilotXX 07-03-2013 09:55 AM

I've had 3 JRM calls on days off, didn't answer, in the past month. All July trips are PRM. I bet we see DBPRM second half of August and September

frmrdashtrash 07-03-2013 11:45 AM

Was there any change in the junior man language with the new contract?

PDTpilotXX 07-03-2013 11:57 AM

Nope 3/yr and a Jrm ext

theHub 07-03-2013 01:52 PM

I got all 3 of my Jr man's taken care of in the past 3 weeks.

piper338 07-03-2013 03:21 PM

PDT News and Rumors
 
http://m.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/plane-makes-emergency-landing-charlotte-douglas/nYcxB/

BE19Pilot 07-03-2013 10:44 PM

Cannot see Piedmont surviving as a business unit of USAirways post-merger. The airline is run on a tight budget enough as it is, and then to imagine a re-fleet with a top-heavy seniority list? Why on Earth would they do that?
I believe that what happened at DL/NW post-merger is going to happen at USAirways (and the wholly-owned subsidiaries). They will be sold, or divested and draconian consolidation will follow and RFPs to operate any "new" flying or airplanes.
JK incident, I was there...Quite a shock to say the least, but not really surprising either...

frmrdashtrash 07-04-2013 11:48 AM

PDT News and Rumors
 
Keeping the previous junior man language is near criminal.

So what's with the JK thing? He finally spout off to a classroom full of guys who had some flight / life experience and they tell him to shove it?

BSOuthisplace 07-04-2013 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frmrdashtrash (Post 1439324)
Keeping the previous junior man language is near criminal.

So what's with the JK thing? He finally spout off to a classroom full of guys who had some flight / life experience and they tell him to shove it?

Don't you know? Fun/ life experiences are not allowed at Piedmont, especially while you're in JK's world/ Training.

Squawk2112 07-04-2013 01:47 PM

JK is still at that place ? Laugh out loud

theHub 07-12-2013 06:22 AM

No August CQ. Wow.

PDTPILOT 07-12-2013 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theHub:1443689
No August CQ. Wow.

What's the reason? Bringing the instructors on line?

JustaRampagent 07-12-2013 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theHub (Post 1443689)
No August CQ. Wow.

What is CQ???? (I am a newbie)

PDTpilotXX 07-12-2013 07:48 AM

At least there is still vaca...

BSOuthisplace 07-12-2013 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PDTPILOT (Post 1443720)
What's the reason? Bringing the instructors on line?

I'm guessing because they can't afford to take anyone offline since we are so short staffed. I think our block hours drop a bit in September so they can run more classes then.

I'm still waiting for that double premium. Too bad I can't pick it up with my 12 day off line.

PapaUniform 07-12-2013 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustaRampagent (Post 1443725)
What is CQ???? (I am a newbie)

Our annual recurrent training. It's fancy AQP wording that stands for "Continuing Qualification."

FixTheMess 07-14-2013 03:21 AM

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· Proposal contains a minimum fleet size guarantee for 8 years and that would be guaranteed by the mainline, which would include larger new aircraft

· Proposal contains increasing the minimum number of pilots per year that Eagle must allow to flow to AA by 25%
It's pretty sad that the Eagle pilots are up in arms about a proposal from US Airways that has these items in it, when, at the same time, we jumped at the chance to sign our futures away here at Piedmont. What a slap in the face. Maybe Eagle will offer us new-hire positions when we lose our jobs.

PDTpilotXX 07-14-2013 08:31 AM

It also contains a B scale, pay freezes under certain conditions, etc, of course they are are up in arms.

seafeye 07-14-2013 08:41 AM

So essentially a "c" scale?


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