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09-16-2016, 08:36 AM
#9331
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Originally Posted by Jc2016
So i've read the email from the union regarding the pay increase for all WO's. I still do not understand what he was trying to say beside nagging about being the last one to know about the deal? Is there going to be a pay increase or not?
What he didn't address in his hysterical rant is if the company will be returning to continue negotiations. Will they?
09-16-2016, 08:45 AM
#9333
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Originally Posted by Wink
Seriously. We get it, you're butthurt because Piedmont was sloppy thirds. Get over it. I have no shame in being the caboose, approve the damn thing.
What he didn't address in his hysterical rant is if the company will be returning to continue negotiations. Will they?
What he didn't address in his hysterical rant is if the company will be returning to continue negotiations. Will they?
agreed. MEC chair is to vote in the interest of the pilot group. we want this. so approve it. Im sick of the ALPA bs here. the union has jammed us up twice now. it needs to change. the majority of pilots here want this.
09-16-2016, 08:47 AM
#9334
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Originally Posted by ajm757
So they did try to negotiate but nothing came out of it?
09-16-2016, 08:53 AM
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The point of his letter was that the offer was presented to them informally which does not follow the ALPA policy manual. It's was basically Lyle just calling Bruce and asking him to agree to the PSA like deal over the phone. You don't just accept an offer without getting the details first. It should have been presented to the MEC as a formal proposal. Instead it sounds like PDT mgt botched it (no surprise) and AAG wasn't on top of the situation. A deal is still in the works, it's just going take way longer than it should have because the process wasn't initiated properly. This is PDT mgmt SOPs though, look at the iPad program and every other thing, amazingly though everyone keeps their job.
09-16-2016, 08:53 AM
#9336
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
Yes it appears they sent back an email of PDTs "needs" but after the other two WOs took the deal I doubt the company is going to be very receptive...
09-16-2016, 09:03 AM
#9337
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Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace
The point of his letter was that the offer was presented to them informally which does not follow the ALPA policy manual. It's was basically Lyle just calling Bruce and asking him to agree to the PSA like deal over the phone. You don't just accept an offer without getting the details first. It should have been presented to the MEC as a formal proposal. Instead it sounds like PDT mgt botched it (no surprise) and AAG wasn't on top of the situation. A deal is still in the works, it's just going take way longer than it should have because the process wasn't initiated properly. This is PDT mgmt SOPs though, look at the iPad program and every other thing, amazingly though everyone keeps their job.
09-16-2016, 09:09 AM
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Oh and no surprise, PSA and ENY MECs negotiated their deals without notifying PDT's. Some unity.
There was an opportunity to stand together and actually make meaningful improvements to our CBAs but instead we get these short sided bandaid deals because we don't work together. It's disappointing to see us waste so much negotiating leverage it's Pilots like the whiners above, ready to settle for the quick cash, that make it possible. I mean seriously, these retention bonuses won't even get paid out until next year. What's the rush of trying to get a deal done in a matter of days?
There was an opportunity to stand together and actually make meaningful improvements to our CBAs but instead we get these short sided bandaid deals because we don't work together. It's disappointing to see us waste so much negotiating leverage it's Pilots like the whiners above, ready to settle for the quick cash, that make it possible. I mean seriously, these retention bonuses won't even get paid out until next year. What's the rush of trying to get a deal done in a matter of days?
09-16-2016, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace
Oh and no surprise, PSA and ENY MECs negotiated their deals without notifying PDT's. Some unity.
There was an opportunity to stand together and actually make meaningful improvements to our CBAs but instead we get these short sided bandaid deals because we don't work together. It's disappointing to see us waste so much negotiating leverage it's Pilots like the whiners above, ready to settle for the quick cash, that make it possible. I mean seriously, these retention bonuses won't even get paid out until next year. What's the rush of trying to get a deal done in a matter of days?
There was an opportunity to stand together and actually make meaningful improvements to our CBAs but instead we get these short sided bandaid deals because we don't work together. It's disappointing to see us waste so much negotiating leverage it's Pilots like the whiners above, ready to settle for the quick cash, that make it possible. I mean seriously, these retention bonuses won't even get paid out until next year. What's the rush of trying to get a deal done in a matter of days?
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