What if you haven't had a recent flying job?
03-09-2006, 12:40 PM
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What if you haven't had a recent flying job?
Looking for some advice.
I'm a 30 yr. old pilot with 2500+TT, 300+ME CPL, ME, IR, CFI/II, ATPw, FEw, etc. Haven't flown in a few years for an employer but did rent an AC on occasion.
I'm wanting to get back in the seat and have completed both my ATP and FE written tests, completed a BFR and Instrument Comp. Check. I have also started practical training for my ATP and hope to have that ticket in my pocket before the end of this month.
I feel that I am current and current on instruments after passing the ATP checkride (I'm taking mine with the local FSDO). However, it has been a few years since I held a paid flying job.
Which Regional would hire me with a fresh ATPL but no recent flying job?
I'm a 30 yr. old pilot with 2500+TT, 300+ME CPL, ME, IR, CFI/II, ATPw, FEw, etc. Haven't flown in a few years for an employer but did rent an AC on occasion.
I'm wanting to get back in the seat and have completed both my ATP and FE written tests, completed a BFR and Instrument Comp. Check. I have also started practical training for my ATP and hope to have that ticket in my pocket before the end of this month.
I feel that I am current and current on instruments after passing the ATP checkride (I'm taking mine with the local FSDO). However, it has been a few years since I held a paid flying job.
Which Regional would hire me with a fresh ATPL but no recent flying job?
03-09-2006, 01:06 PM
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Probably almost any regional. If there are any regionals out there that have a recency of experience requirement (such as 100 in 6 months), I suspect they would probably waive that if you have a fresh ATP.
03-09-2006, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by UNDPilot
I was just hired by Pinnacle without ever having a flying job. As long as you are instrument current, landing current, and have your ATP written done, you should be able to get an interview.
03-13-2006, 04:57 PM
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Got laid off from a 135 job and was working in flight ops at a major cargo airline. Kept freelance instructing on the side during the two years i worked there. Went to COEX interview and got smacked for not having a current "flying job" even though i was current instructor. Get yourself a job with a company as a pilot or instructor for 6 or so months and it will make things a lot easier when you try to go to a regional if that is what you wish.
04-01-2006, 02:27 PM
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Got my ATPL - ME!!!
Thanks for the tips, ALL.
Did the practical training for my ATPL last week with Accessible Aviation in Columbus, MS (www.accessibleaviation.com not a very nice website, just call them) and past it with flying colors!
Stayed at a Motel6 (aweful place, not recommended if you can afford better accomodations, it's cheap however) and studied the whole time when not out flying.
Carl at Accessible is a retired USAF F16 fighter pilot, however, he still continues to work for the USAF as a contract instructor training guy's/girls on T37 (tweet) sims. Sharp and experienced pilot instructor.
His operation at GTR is small and laid back. It is approved for VA, foreign students and is FAR 141. Friendly staff and instructors. I did all of my training with Carl him self in the Seneca and ATC710 sim and highly recommend him. He doesn't just train you in order to pass the checkride but tries to give you real life help and hints. He is very procedural and that is what the ATP level flying is all about.
Flew from GTR to TCL to do the ride and I ended up doing the ride not in the best of conditions. Because the examiner was delayed, I did the ride at night with direct X-winds gusting to 25 knots and very strong winds and moderate turbulence at altitude.
Did several Instr. approaches, actual engine shut down and re-start, multiple tol and landings with engine failures as well as single engine approaches, unusual attitudes, steep turns, stalls and an engine failure on take-off. Piece of cake after training with Carl! Just remember the procedures.
Carl, even took me and on of his CFI's (also a USAF guy) out to dinner and paid for it. Also bought me a burger on the day of the checkride. After the checkride, on the flight from TCL back to GTR, I kid you not, a shooting star. Don't get that at ALL-ATP
My trip was well wort it.
Now, does anybody know of any airline hiring that would be willing to hire me with no flying job for over 3 years but a brand spanking new ATPL ticket? Who do you think I need to try it with? I can commute, no problem. Live in SE Illinois but just moved and have no idea what's out here.
I am up for both corporate, freight and regionals.
Thanks!
Did the practical training for my ATPL last week with Accessible Aviation in Columbus, MS (www.accessibleaviation.com not a very nice website, just call them) and past it with flying colors!
Stayed at a Motel6 (aweful place, not recommended if you can afford better accomodations, it's cheap however) and studied the whole time when not out flying.
Carl at Accessible is a retired USAF F16 fighter pilot, however, he still continues to work for the USAF as a contract instructor training guy's/girls on T37 (tweet) sims. Sharp and experienced pilot instructor.
His operation at GTR is small and laid back. It is approved for VA, foreign students and is FAR 141. Friendly staff and instructors. I did all of my training with Carl him self in the Seneca and ATC710 sim and highly recommend him. He doesn't just train you in order to pass the checkride but tries to give you real life help and hints. He is very procedural and that is what the ATP level flying is all about.
Flew from GTR to TCL to do the ride and I ended up doing the ride not in the best of conditions. Because the examiner was delayed, I did the ride at night with direct X-winds gusting to 25 knots and very strong winds and moderate turbulence at altitude.
Did several Instr. approaches, actual engine shut down and re-start, multiple tol and landings with engine failures as well as single engine approaches, unusual attitudes, steep turns, stalls and an engine failure on take-off. Piece of cake after training with Carl! Just remember the procedures.
Carl, even took me and on of his CFI's (also a USAF guy) out to dinner and paid for it. Also bought me a burger on the day of the checkride. After the checkride, on the flight from TCL back to GTR, I kid you not, a shooting star. Don't get that at ALL-ATP
My trip was well wort it.
Now, does anybody know of any airline hiring that would be willing to hire me with no flying job for over 3 years but a brand spanking new ATPL ticket? Who do you think I need to try it with? I can commute, no problem. Live in SE Illinois but just moved and have no idea what's out here.
I am up for both corporate, freight and regionals.
Thanks!
04-01-2006, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 1013dot25hPa
Thanks for the tips, ALL.
Did the practical training for my ATPL last week with Accessible Aviation in Columbus, MS (www.accessibleaviation.com not a very nice website, just call them) and past it with flying colors!
Stayed at a Motel6 (aweful place, not recommended if you can afford better accomodations, it's cheap however) and studied the whole time when not out flying.
Carl at Accessible is a retired USAF F16 fighter pilot, however, he still continues to work for the USAF as a contract instructor training guy's/girls on T37 (tweet) sims. Sharp and experienced pilot instructor.
His operation at GTR is small and laid back. It is approved for VA, foreign students and is FAR 141. Friendly staff and instructors. I did all of my training with Carl him self in the Seneca and ATC710 sim and highly recommend him. He doesn't just train you in order to pass the checkride but tries to give you real life help and hints. He is very procedural and that is what the ATP level flying is all about.
Flew from GTR to TCL to do the ride and I ended up doing the ride not in the best of conditions. Because the examiner was delayed, I did the ride at night with direct X-winds gusting to 25 knots and very strong winds and moderate turbulence at altitude.
Did several Instr. approaches, actual engine shut down and re-start, multiple tol and landings with engine failures as well as single engine approaches, unusual attitudes, steep turns, stalls and an engine failure on take-off. Piece of cake after training with Carl! Just remember the procedures.
Carl, even took me and on of his CFI's (also a USAF guy) out to dinner and paid for it. Also bought me a burger on the day of the checkride. After the checkride, on the flight from TCL back to GTR, I kid you not, a shooting star. Don't get that at ALL-ATP
My trip was well wort it.
Now, does anybody know of any airline hiring that would be willing to hire me with no flying job for over 3 years but a brand spanking new ATPL ticket? Who do you think I need to try it with? I can commute, no problem. Live in SE Illinois but just moved and have no idea what's out here.
I am up for both corporate, freight and regionals.
Thanks!
Did the practical training for my ATPL last week with Accessible Aviation in Columbus, MS (www.accessibleaviation.com not a very nice website, just call them) and past it with flying colors!
Stayed at a Motel6 (aweful place, not recommended if you can afford better accomodations, it's cheap however) and studied the whole time when not out flying.
Carl at Accessible is a retired USAF F16 fighter pilot, however, he still continues to work for the USAF as a contract instructor training guy's/girls on T37 (tweet) sims. Sharp and experienced pilot instructor.
His operation at GTR is small and laid back. It is approved for VA, foreign students and is FAR 141. Friendly staff and instructors. I did all of my training with Carl him self in the Seneca and ATC710 sim and highly recommend him. He doesn't just train you in order to pass the checkride but tries to give you real life help and hints. He is very procedural and that is what the ATP level flying is all about.
Flew from GTR to TCL to do the ride and I ended up doing the ride not in the best of conditions. Because the examiner was delayed, I did the ride at night with direct X-winds gusting to 25 knots and very strong winds and moderate turbulence at altitude.
Did several Instr. approaches, actual engine shut down and re-start, multiple tol and landings with engine failures as well as single engine approaches, unusual attitudes, steep turns, stalls and an engine failure on take-off. Piece of cake after training with Carl! Just remember the procedures.
Carl, even took me and on of his CFI's (also a USAF guy) out to dinner and paid for it. Also bought me a burger on the day of the checkride. After the checkride, on the flight from TCL back to GTR, I kid you not, a shooting star. Don't get that at ALL-ATP
My trip was well wort it.
Now, does anybody know of any airline hiring that would be willing to hire me with no flying job for over 3 years but a brand spanking new ATPL ticket? Who do you think I need to try it with? I can commute, no problem. Live in SE Illinois but just moved and have no idea what's out here.
I am up for both corporate, freight and regionals.
Thanks!
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