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RuttR 07-23-2008 07:13 PM

Any Problems with CREWPASS
 
I just tried the Crewpass in PIT. It was easy and fast! Has anyone had problems with it? I know ALPA worked really hard to get this in place so feedback to ALPA is encouraged so we can get this at all airports....NON ALPA pilots can just *reap the benefits!
* corrected...it was late :)

freezingflyboy 07-23-2008 07:17 PM

Went through in BWI this past week without much trouble. Although it took my captain and I just about as long to go through the crewpass line as it took our FA to go through the normal line. Nice to not have to pull out the laptop though! If they could just figure out a way to speed it up and drop the requirement to be in costume...errr...I mean uniform, I think we have a winner.

reevesofskyking 07-23-2008 07:58 PM

I had the same experince in PIT last weekend. It was nice not to take off my boots and my laptop, I cannot say that it was much quicker than the normal employee line there, but it was still so nice and easy. It just nice not to have the hassel, and the way they were doing it in PIT, it looked like it would be cheep to implement system wide.

I was on the verge being impressed with the system. I am looking forward to seeing work in wide scale test or all the way online.

duvie 07-23-2008 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by RuttR (Post 432011)
reek the benefits!

Are you serious :o

freezingflyboy 07-23-2008 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by duvie (Post 432054)
Are you serious :o

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, some of us ALPA guys have a pretty good stink on us:D

WhizWheel 07-23-2008 08:16 PM

I had the same experience in PIT last week. Very easy. My only trepidation is that right now its implemented in PIT (a ghost town), CAE (not exactly an internation hub) and BWI (the alternate DC airport). If this gets the green light from the braintrust and is implemented in lets say JFK, ORD, LGA, LAX, SFO, etc.......what are the odds that, as another poster put in a different thread, that once this is in place and TSA is whiddled down to one or two agents working the CrewPass line that this becomes the usual TSA snafu?

TonyWilliams 07-23-2008 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by RuttR (Post 432011)
NON ALPA pilots can just reek the benefits!


So, absolutely no other pilot group had any say / help in this? It's all ALPA ?

sweptback 07-23-2008 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by TonyWilliams (Post 432082)
So, absolutely no other pilot group had any say / help in this?

Nope. ALPA even provided the laptops to the TSA during the test phase.

sigep_nm 07-23-2008 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by TonyWilliams (Post 432082)
So, absolutely no other pilot group had any say / help in this? It's all ALPA ?

I dont recall seeing any other push besides ALPA pushing for this, so enjoy!!! As I recall I think I paid for this:D
And no tony you didnt have any say in this.

phoenix 23684 07-24-2008 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by RuttR (Post 432011)
NON ALPA pilots can just *reap the benefits!
* corrected...it was late :)



Oh please, what has ALPA done this past 10 years to preserve QOL, Pay, Pensions, work rules, jobs, are you not paying attention to what has happened to this profession? Yet the largest pilot group in the country can't do anything about it, Oh that's right it's an organization of safety. Unless ALPA gets back to its old ways of back in the day, they are pretty useless bunch of burocrats who are only there to preserve the status quo.

DLAJ77 07-24-2008 08:11 AM

big fan here for the crewpass!!! pit was fast and simple.

flyguyniner11 07-24-2008 09:00 AM

lets all bow to alpa now

JetJock16 07-24-2008 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 432120)
I dont recall seeing any other push besides ALPA pushing for this, so enjoy!!! As I recall I think I paid for this:D
And no tony you didnt have any say in this.

Don't kid yourself, you had as much of a say in this as TW did. The only real difference is that he as well as SWA, RAH, F9, AA, UPS and many others don't pay 1.95% to ALPA.

sigep_nm 07-24-2008 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 432316)
Don't kid yourself, you had as much of a say in this as TW did. The only real difference is that he as well as SWA, RAH, F9, AA, UPS and many others don't pay 1.95% to ALPA.

Im not sure where you say me saying that I had a say in this, and you are correct that I paid 1.95% and the others didnt, which is exactly what I said the first time. And dont kid yourself into thinking I have the option to pay union dues to ALPA or not.

ToiletDuck 07-24-2008 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by reevesofskyking (Post 432045)
I had the same experince in PIT last weekend. It was nice not to take off my boots and my laptop, I cannot say that it was much quicker than the normal employee line there, but it was still so nice and easy. It just nice not to have the hassel, and the way they were doing it in PIT, it looked like it would be cheep to implement system wide.

I was on the verge being impressed with the system. I am looking forward to seeing work in wide scale test or all the way online.

At least if it spreads you won't have to deal with PAX wondering why you're cutting in line or them standing 20 deep in the employee line.

JetJock16 07-24-2008 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 432356)
Im not sure where you say me saying that I had a say in this, and you are correct that I paid 1.95% and the others didnt, which is exactly what I said the first time. And dont kid yourself into thinking I have the option to pay union dues to ALPA or not.

I never said that you had a choice when it comes to paying dues, I know you don’t.

BTW, the SigEp's on my college campus weren’t very reputable to say the least but there are bad apples in every bushel. This comment is not directed at you, just an interesting tidbit that I thought of when I first saw your handle.

Good Day.

flyguy19348 07-24-2008 12:44 PM

WOW how did this become ALPA bashing, it cracks me up how even in these times we cant see the bright side...we ALL are pilots facing tough times, and heres is a nice bright spot and here we go with "mines better than yours"

RuttR 07-24-2008 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by phoenix 23684 (Post 432232)
Oh please, what has ALPA done this past 10 years to preserve QOL, Pay, Pensions, .....

I'm won't disagree with you on those points. I'm just referring to the whole crewpass idea.

skywatch 07-24-2008 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy19348 (Post 432454)
WOW how did this become ALPA bashing, it cracks me up how even in these times we cant see the bright side...we ALL are pilots facing tough times, and heres is a nice bright spot and here we go with "mines better than yours"

In fairness, there was some "my fraternity is better than yours" mixed in there too...:D

Noseeums 07-24-2008 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 432316)
Don't kid yourself, you had as much of a say in this as TW did. The only real difference is that he as well as SWA, RAH, F9, AA, UPS and many others don't pay 1.95% to ALPA.

You're right. Most of those pay more around 3% to their respective unions.

:D

JetJock16 07-24-2008 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by Noseeums (Post 432544)
You're right. Most of those pay more around 3% to their respective unions.

:D

Really? I not familiar with the dues at other carriers but it's nice having to pay a big fat goose egg in dues (for those who are mathematically challenged that means nothing or 0%), especially when we still get to benefit from most of what ALPA does. In other words we get the milk without having to buy the cow. PLEASE NOTE SARCASM!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

Sidemark: I voted yes for ALPA here at SKW, it's sad that I have to keep repeating that because someone will get on here and make this an ALPA/Non-Union bash fest or will chose to bash me for being non-union.

Good day.

freezingflyboy 07-24-2008 03:16 PM

How bout all you non-ALPA guys just buy the ALPA guys a beer next time you run into some at the bar and call it even. Sheesh!

TonyWilliams 07-24-2008 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 432553)
How bout all you non-ALPA guys just buy the ALPA guys a beer next time you run into some at the bar and call it even. Sheesh!


It sounds like a great thing, and I commend ALPA, and anybody else, who had a role in making this happen. I'll be happy to buy a beer to any member whose dues made this happen.


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