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RJtrashPilot 08-09-2008 09:14 AM

Look Closely
 
Is this aircraft's reversers deployed before weight on wheels? Or is it just an optical illusion. I truly can't tell, but to me it looks like both reversers are deployed while still in flight. Someone emailed this link to me to see if I could figure it out, but I can't tell.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Sudan...ext_id=1370121

HalinTexas 08-09-2008 09:21 AM

It's airborne. About 6ft. At this point, I'm sure they're just speed brakes. There's no lift-dump on the wings yet, so I'm sure it could fly OK with the TR's on 2 of 4 deployed as long as they're in idle reverse.

JetJock16 08-09-2008 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot (Post 441540)
Is this aircraft's reversers deployed before weight on wheels? Or is it just an optical illusion. I truly can't tell, but to me it looks like both reversers are deployed while still in flight. Someone emailed this link to me to see if I could figure it out, but I can't tell.

Photos: Ilyushin Il-62M Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

Two of the four are, but the a/c is Russian..............nuff said. :rolleyes:

BenFluth216 08-09-2008 10:00 AM

Could be like the C17 where the reversers can be deployed at idle inflight to act as speed brakes.

BoilerUP 08-09-2008 10:15 AM

The DC-8 uses Engine 2/3 TRs as speedbrakes as well.

Flyboy8784 08-09-2008 02:13 PM

So does the lockheed Jetstar......pilots typically reverse the 2 inboard engines during a decent to make it nice and steep...cool flying airplane

SomedayRJ 08-09-2008 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 441545)
Two of the four are, but the a/c is Russian..............nuff said. :rolleyes:

I wonder if that screws up their pitch control/gives them any buffet on the tail in flight.

saab2000 08-09-2008 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 441545)
Two of the four are, but the a/c is Russian..............nuff said. :rolleyes:

Be careful....

I have been on many Russian airplanes. They know how to build airplanes.

Anyway, the DC-8 is also certified for inflight reverser usage.

SomedayRJ 08-09-2008 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 441694)
Be careful....

I have been on many Russian airplanes. They know how to build airplanes.

I like how the Tu154 usually survives a gear-up landing. Jack it up, extend the (often perfectly good) gear, and taxi off...

saab2000 08-09-2008 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by SomedayRJ (Post 441698)
I like how the Tu154 usually survives a gear-up landing. Jack it up, extend the (often perfectly good) gear, and taxi off...

I am surprised you even need to put it back on the wheels. That tank should just be able to throttle up and taxi in on its belly!! :D

One of the most beautiful planes ever made IMHO!

Photos: Tupolev Tu-154M Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

jmoney 08-09-2008 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 441694)
Be careful....

I have been on many Russian airplanes. They know how to build airplanes.

Anyway, the DC-8 is also certified for inflight reverser usage.

I have see one of those things (from the reverser pic) close up.

-No slats, so the wings are about 8 feet thick at the roots

-It has a hydraulic ram that extends vertically from the tail (on the ground.) The ram actually has a set of castering wheels on it to keep the plane from tipping over onto its tail-too much weight with those four engines that far back.

*The kicker was that this plane didn't even have rivets on the fuselage-not a single one! What Ivan used was a bunch of regular (not even stainless steel) screws. Phillips head. Just get some new ones at Home Depot-I guess.... I suppose no one ever told Ivan about all the inconvenient problems with dissimilar metals and such-these things were rusted so badly I doubt a single would would have screwed out without breaking. Rust streaks galore!

-Russians do know how to build STRANGE airplanes......

HercDriver130 08-09-2008 05:56 PM

Build them yes.... brute force method in many cases...... maintenance and keeping them flying is another story.

StillLearning 08-10-2008 01:03 PM

Il-62 prototype 1962, first entered service 1967 and the last one was produced in 1994.

over 360K pound max takeoff
fixed drooping leading edge extension on the outer 2/3rds of wing
range approximately 5K nm

Maybe the spoilers have to be manually deployed
and just maybe, the crew is on their 1st of three bounces??

Senior Skipper 08-10-2008 01:14 PM

Hey it's an Ilyushin...anything is possible ;)

EmbraerFlyer 08-10-2008 05:14 PM

He/she could have bounced the landing...

dbchandler1 08-10-2008 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 441700)
I am surprised you even need to put it back on the wheels. That tank should just be able to throttle up and taxi in on its belly!! :D

One of the most beautiful planes ever made IMHO!

Photos: Tupolev Tu-154M Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

Yeah its okay......but the original 727 was still better I think. :)


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