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flynavyj 08-14-2008 07:38 AM

was just about to ask, new hires? what airline are you flying for anyway?

All my FO's have nearly a thousand in type

soon enough, i'll be an FO, and i have TPIC in type. but im a happy camper. lol.

UNDPilot 08-14-2008 07:42 AM

Seems to be the trend now days with new hires. Especially in DTW...

reevesofskyking 08-14-2008 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 444245)
...so how's flying for GoJet treating ya?

I know you are bitter about go jet as am i, but that was a little unfounded, you could have just every one think it to themselves.

Just messin with ya

NightIP 08-14-2008 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 444253)
was just about to ask, new hires? what airline are you flying for anyway?

All my FO's have nearly a thousand in type

soon enough, i'll be an FO, and i have TPIC in type. but im a happy camper. lol.

I was about to ask the same question. :D

PiperPower 08-14-2008 11:23 AM

We kind of have the same issue with some of the Tokai and Air China students up here in Grand Forks. They are very bright kids, however I think their English is a huge problem, and at times compromises safety.

We have students doing their first solos, these Tokai and Air China students who don't speak English very well, and on top of that we have a pretty confusing temporary airport layout, as one of the primary runways we use is closed. The controllers can give some pretty confusing taxi instructions and approach instructions since GFK is basically down to one runway. I really think that all these factors together are just a terrible mix. Not to mention the combination of the Asian students with very little English doing their first solos as well... But everyone has to start somewhere I guess.

It's definitely started making me look for traffic far more than I did before. Just because you're doing what ATC instructed you to do, doesn't mean someone else didn't completely botch their own instructions... I hope UND does something about it. Maybe require them to meet a certain level of the language rather than trying to make money off of them right away. I hope it doesn't take an accident for something to be done about it.

P.S. I sat here and proof read my post for probably 15 minutes just so I wouldn't get drilled about my bad English! I'm sure someone will still find something! Ha

HercDriver130 08-14-2008 12:02 PM

I would agree...EXCEPT when they launch off into their native language ...leaving you to wonder exactly what it was he was saying that you might need to be aware of.......


Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 444190)
When I worked in Europe we had to take a 'voice' course as part of the training. I am a native English speaker and scoffed at the idea. Until I actually started flying around Europe to 20 different countries with 20 different languages and accents. The standardization that existed there allowed for far less confusion.

I would advocate the same standardization here in the US. It really does reduce confusion if you are saying and listening to the same things for the same procedures.


Diver Driver 08-14-2008 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 444245)
...so how's flying for GoJet treating ya?


Or Mesa?... lol. There are plenty of American, native English speaking folks trying to get airline jobs... Too bad for affirmative action, really gives minorities an upper hand advantage. Oh well... back to dreaming that all FA's are 23 year old nurses and single... :rolleyes:

cfii2007 08-14-2008 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by hslightnin (Post 444243)

I cringe every time my foreign students get on the radio with ATC......

Brendan 08-14-2008 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Diver Driver (Post 444417)
Or Mesa?... lol. There are plenty of American, native English speaking folks trying to get airline jobs... Too bad for affirmative action, really gives minorities an upper hand advantage. Oh well... back to dreaming that all FA's are 23 year old nurses and single... :rolleyes:

Hey, the newest future census says Caucasians will be a minority by 2048. So, by the next big hiring wave (my guess: somewhere in the late 2050's) affirmative action will pay off for my pale Irish skin! Oh wait, I'll be 70. Crap.

cfii2007 08-14-2008 01:17 PM

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