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ASA's so called DCI contract
Anyone know where the details of this exist(for that matter, where to read any of the DCI carrier contracts)? I've heard too many rumors lately that no one can confirm. For example - they get 80% of DCI flying from ATL, performance #s aren't as strict, their ATL gates are owned by Delta, etc.
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Originally Posted by gtechpilot
(Post 450382)
Anyone know where the details of this exist(for that matter, where to read any of the DCI carrier contracts)? I've heard too many rumors lately that no one can confirm. For example - they get 80% of DCI flying from ATL, performance #s aren't as strict, their ATL gates are owned by Delta, etc.
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
(Post 450391)
Just curious as to why it matters?;)
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As long as ASA maintains its #'s ASA is to do 80% of DCI flying out of ATL. This was per SH and DR in the Fall of '05 while ASA was in those extended contract negotiations.
However as all DCI flying has been reduced that 80% as shrunk! |
I don't recall the details, but having a solid DCI contract was an obvious prerequisite for the SKW purchase of ASA. Jerry's no amateur, so there are not going to be any loopholes.
I would assume that ASA is contractually safe as long as the performance is good, and as long as Inc doesn't voluntary trade away ASA protections to DAL in exchange for something else (I can't think of any reason this would happen). |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 450417)
I don't recall the details, but having a solid DCI contract was an obvious prerequisite for the SKW purchase of ASA. Jerry's no amateur, so there are not going to be any loopholes.
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Originally Posted by gtechpilot
(Post 450382)
Anyone know where the details of this exist(for that matter, where to read any of the DCI carrier contracts)? I've heard too many rumors lately that no one can confirm. For example - they get 80% of DCI flying from ATL, performance #s aren't as strict, their ATL gates are owned by Delta, etc.
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Originally Posted by CRJDriver
(Post 450435)
Yes,.... Delta is giving you all the CRJ900s from Freedom! No go spread the joy little boy!
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
(Post 450409)
As long as ASA maintains its #'s ASA is to do 80% of DCI flying out of ATL. This was per SH and DR in the Fall of '05 while ASA was in those extended contract negotiations.
However as all DCI flying has been reduced that 80% as shrunk! SkyWest Airlines We have the same contract for our SLC flying, but I thought it was 85%. Now here’s a question for those who might know. Is ASA counted independently or does SKW departures in ATL count when it comes to that 80% (same Co.)? I can’t remember if the contract specifies ASA or SKW Inc., I know SKW Inc. said they plan on keeping the two operations separate but the contract is with Inc., not ASA. I'm not meaning anything buy it, I feel ATL should be ASA and SLC......SKW. And I even live in ATL (Roswell). |
Originally Posted by CRJDriver
(Post 450435)
Yes,.... Delta is giving you all the CRJ900s from Freedom! No go spread the joy little boy!
Cute. |
Originally Posted by JetJock16
(Post 450445)
Now here’s a question for those who might know. Is ASA counted independently or does SKW departures in ATL count when it comes to that 80% (same Co.)? I can’t remember if the contract specifies ASA or SKW Inc. I'm not meaning anything buy it, I feel ATL should be ASA and SLC......SKW. And I live in ATL.
I'm also more concerned about what performance #s we're tied to. If ASA screws up, Delta can terminate both SKW and ASA, and vice versa. |
Originally Posted by gtechpilot
(Post 450448)
Trouble is, I can't find 80% in SEC filings or any other public document. I hear that number consistently, but haven't yet found the legal reference.
I'm also more concerned about what performance #s we're tied to. If ASA screws up, Delta can terminate both SKW and ASA, and vice versa. Bottom line, SKW Inc. is just too large for DAL to replace plus our a/c are our a/c (expect 12(?) CR7's, 4 at SKW and 8 at ASA), not DAL’s so they just can't simply pull an XJT/CAL or F8/Comair/DAL on us. There’s just too much money riding on it as well as too many operational problems that will occur if DAL renigs on Inc., so I wouldn't worry about ASA until our contract is almost up in 2020. But anything can happen. |
Here we go - from the 2005 10K found in the March 2006 SEC filings:
In connection with the ASA acquisition, we have established new, separate, but substantially similar, long-term fixed-fee Delta Connection Agreements with Delta for both SkyWest Airlines and ASA. We also obtained control of 26 gates in the Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport located in Atlanta, from which we currently provide service to Delta. Delta has committed to provide to us opportunities to utilize 28 additional regional jets in our fleet by the end of 2007. Delta has also agreed that, starting in 2008, ASA is guaranteed to maintain its percentage of total Delta Connection flights that it has in 2007, so long as its bid for additional regional flying is competitive with other regional carriers. Potential Opportunities from Delta’s Restructuring. We believe that as Delta restructures its fleet under bankruptcy protection, there may be new regional flying contracts that become available for qualified regional carriers. ASA holds certain rights to maintain its proportion of overall Delta regional flights, as well as its proportion of Atlanta regional flights. This may help ASA compete for new flying mandates, if any, that come into existence at Delta. SA uses 26 gates at the Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport: 13 gates are leased directly from the airport authority, six gates are subleased from US Air, five gates are subleased from Delta and two gates are used pursuant to a month-to-month arrangement. ASA intends to lease from Delta three additional gates effective December 1, 2005. |
Ive never seen it in writing, but 80% is what Jerry told my new-hire class in a meet-and-greet...he made it sound like Inc, but the 10K looks like it specifies ASA?
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The SKYW DCI agreement is a public document available as an attachment to the SKYW 8-K form filed on 9/13/2005. There is an 80% clause. There is also a clause specifying a minimum daily aircraft utilization. If the daily block hours fall below that minimum for several consecutive months (which they recently have), the base hourly rate payable to SKYW increases for every block hour flown.
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Here's a clause from the agreement:
B. If Delta is concerned about ASA’s performance in connection with any of the performance standards set forth in Section 10(A), Operator agrees to discuss with Delta such performance and potential ways to improve such performance at Delta’s request. The parties shall have ten (10) days to determine appropriate solutions and/or a corrective action plan, and ASA agrees to diligently comply with the terms and conditions of any such solutions and corrective action plans. |
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Originally Posted by sweptback
(Post 451107)
ASA fails to maintain a completion rate of [***] with respect to the Delta Connection Flights during any [***] months during any consecutive [***] month period, unless Delta fails to maintain a completion rate of [***] with respect to its domestic mainline operations during the same [***] months as ASA’s failures during the same [***] period. For purposes of this Agreement, (a) Delta Connection Flights operated with no revenue passengers or completed over [***] hours late shall be considered as not completed and (b) Disproportionate ATL Cancellations shall be excluded from ASA’s completion rate calculation; i) ASA shall be scheduled to operate not less than [***] of all Delta Connection Program departures scheduled at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport (“Hartsfield”) and (ii) [***] ((i) and (ii) above, collectively, the “ATL Departure Percentages.”) |
Originally Posted by JetJock16
(Post 450458)
Bottom line, SKW Inc. is just too large for DAL to replace
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Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 451121)
Famous last words of many regional airlines.
:eek: |
Maybe SKYW will buy DAL
JK or am I? |
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