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KingAirPIC 08-31-2008 05:26 PM

SkyWest PDX-OTH & LMT
 
Looks like two new destinations out of Portland for the E120. In and out twice a day. I assume SkyWest is taking over for Horizon. Starting mid October. Enjoy.

Riverside 08-31-2008 07:13 PM

Be careful..... ExpressJet tried to takeover our routes and no offense see what happened.

BoredwLife 08-31-2008 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 453488)
Be careful..... ExpressJet tried to takeover our routes and no offense see what happened.


Our routes? Did I miss something? Are you a Spokane ramper?

de727ups 08-31-2008 07:45 PM

"Looks like two new destinations out of Portland for the E120."

Are they UA code shares, AS code shares, or "Skywest branded"?

flyboyzz1 08-31-2008 07:59 PM

with revenue guarantees from the communities

LOW FUEL 08-31-2008 08:04 PM

Eas...........

Flyin1500 08-31-2008 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 453488)
Be careful..... ExpressJet tried to takeover our routes and no offense see what happened.

Guess you missed this memo....................


Horizon ending service to Klamath Falls and North Bend/Coos Bay on Oct. 11
As part of its fleet transition and plan to improve financial performance in light of record high fuel costs, Horizon will end all flights from Portland to Klamath Falls and North Bend/Coos Bay, Ore., on Oct. 11. Klamath Falls is currently served with three daily Q200s to Portland, while North Bend/Coos Bay has four Q200 flights now and three in the fall.
“Despite our best efforts to adjust flight schedules and fares in order to make these routes financially viable, consistent profitability has proved to be elusive,” said Dan Russo, Horizon’s vice president of marketing and communications. “The astronomically high fuel prices have only made the situation worse, and so we find ourselves with no choice but to reduce our losses by taking this action.”
“It’s a sad day when we have to announce that we are going to leave any city, and it’s particularly heart-wrenching in the case of these two Oregon cities, which we have served since 1982, shortly after Horizon was established,” said Jeff Pinneo, Horizon’s president and CEO. “Our people there have established a long tradition of excellent customer service and contributed much to their communities. I wish to thank them for their years of service as well as extend our gratitude to the customers who have flown with us over the past 26 years. Hopefully, some years down the road, once the economic picture greatly improves and these markets experience more growth, we can consider returning.”
Horizon currently has 10 employees in Klamath Falls and 12 in North Bend/Coos Bay, and they are all being given the opportunity to apply for openings elsewhere in Horizon’s route system.
After Horizon ends its service to Klamath Falls, the nearest Horizon airport will be Medford (78 miles away), with nonstop service to Los Angeles, Portland and Seattle. The nearest Horizon airport to North Bend/Coos Bay will be Eugene (104 miles away), with nonstop service to Portland and Seattle, and direct (one-stop) service to Los Angeles.
Horizon’s fleet serves 49 cities throughout Arizona, California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Baja California Sur (Mexico), and British Columbia and Alberta (Canada). Together, Horizon Air and Alaska Airlines serve 92 cities and are subsidiaries of Alaska Air Group,

JetJock16 09-01-2008 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by KingAirPIC (Post 453451)
Looks like two new destinations out of Portland for the E120. In and out twice a day. I assume SkyWest is taking over for Horizon. Starting mid October. Enjoy.

I said this would happen back when we first announced SFO service. Also expect more to come as Horizontal starts to pull their Q2's off line. BTW, we are not taking their flying; we are back filling what they no longer want. I think Horizontal has a great product and I wish their pilots and employees the best.

Good luck.

JetJock16 09-01-2008 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by flyboyzz1 (Post 453519)
with revenue guarantees from the communities


Originally Posted by LOW FUEL (Post 453525)
Eas...........

After the first year it will all be "At-Risk" by SKW with no guarantees.

Herald and News: Klamath Falls, Oregon > Archives > Featured Story > Airline to offer flights north

Quotes:

"SkyWest Airlines will provide two flights daily between Klamath Falls and Portland beginning Oct. 12, the day after Horizon Air halts flights between the two cities."

"If SkyWest fails to break even financially in the first year, it will be compensated up to $626,000. The money was collected from individuals, organizations and companies in the Klamath Basin."

"Airport and city officials have worked since then to recruit another northbound carrier. Martin said he and city officials met with Horizon, SkyWest and Delta Airlines to talk about service to Portland, discussing guarantees between $626,000 to $2.5 million."



Originally Posted by de727ups (Post 453510)
"Looks like two new destinations out of Portland for the E120."

Are they UA code shares, AS code shares, or "Skywest branded"?

This will be at-risk flying by SKW in partnership with UAL who we will pay to sell our tickets. Which 75+% (LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA & SLC) of our E-120 flying is "At-Risk" by SKW.


NOTE:

Our Southbound service to SFO is not the same as our PDX service. The FAA is temporarily backing (only up to $400K) us between SFO and LMT/OTH and once the time frame has expired it will be fully at-risk.

SFO-LMT: Currently the morning flights are averaging 24 (chaaaaa ching!) people with the evening being around 5 (losing money but the morning FLT is currently making up for it) and numbers are improving. (source: LMT Station Manager Jason B) BEP on the route is currently 11 peeps on board.

MatchPoint 09-02-2008 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 453488)
Be careful..... ExpressJet tried to takeover our routes and no offense see what happened.

Hmmmm, so Horizon’s the reason for XJT’s problems and SKW is stealing their routes? :confused: LOL! Next time try doing a little research before you post your garbage.


BTW, you don’t fly for Horizon, you’re a CFI. :eek:

otter 09-02-2008 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 453488)
Be careful..... ExpressJet tried to takeover our routes and no offense see what happened.

As a Skywest pilot, that's the most stupid thing anyone could say.

The Dude Abides 09-02-2008 11:39 AM

As a Horizon pilot, I concur as well.

Nevets 09-02-2008 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 453488)
Be careful..... ExpressJet tried to takeover our routes and no offense see what happened.

Just curious because I honestly don't know, but what routes was Horizon serving that XJT started serving?

The Dude Abides 09-02-2008 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 454379)
Just curious because I honestly don't know, but what routes was Horizon serving that XJT started serving?

I think he's referring to GEG/BOI to socal.

Nevets 09-02-2008 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by The Dude Abides (Post 454403)
I think he's referring to GEG/BOI to socal.

XJT had multiple city pairs for both of those cities. Which specific city pairs did XJT begin service on that Horizon ALREADY serviced?

de727ups 09-02-2008 06:33 PM

In GEG, it's the other way around. After Xjet started service out of GEG to ONT, SMF, SAN, TUS, and RNO. We got an addtional QX flight to LAX, QX service to SMF and QX service to SAN. Now that Xjet is gone. AS/QX service in GEG has gone back to much of what it used to be before Xjet came on the scene.

Not sure if that answers your question....

Nevets 09-02-2008 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by de727ups (Post 454571)
In GEG, it's the other way around. After Xjet started service out of GEG to ONT, SMF, SAN, TUS, and RNO. We got an addtional QX flight to LAX, QX service to SMF and QX service to SAN. Now that Xjet is gone. AS/QX service in GEG has gone back to much of what it used to be before Xjet came on the scene.

Not sure if that answers your question....

Yes it does, thank you. This is what I thought because I specifically remember XJT saying that they were serving city pairs that had NO ONE serving them.

I believe that it was the same for the BOI flights as well? I would be surprised if it wasn't.

In essence, XJT didnt' try to "takeover" anyone's routes as Riverside tried to assert.

Dash8Pilot 09-02-2008 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 454578)
Yes it does, thank you. This is what I thought because I specifically remember XJT saying that they were serving city pairs that had NO ONE serving them.

I believe that it was the same for the BOI flights as well? I would be surprised if it wasn't.

In essence, XJT didnt' try to "takeover" anyone's routes as Riverside tried to assert.

Horizon still saw it as XJT stepping on their toes. QX has significant operations in both cities, and sends passengers from GEG and BOI all over the west coast. Any new flight from either city to the west coast was bound to be matched by Horizon.

Nevets 09-02-2008 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Dash8Pilot (Post 454613)
Horizon still saw it as XJT stepping on their toes. QX has significant operations in both cities, and sends passengers from GEG and BOI all over the west coast. Any new flight from either city to the west coast was bound to be matched by Horizon.

Maybe, and obviously that is how Horizon felt, but I just reject Riverside's premise that XJT was trying to take over Horizon's routes when those routes didn't even exist until XJT serviced them.

MatchPoint 09-02-2008 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 454619)
Maybe, and obviously that is how Horizon felt, but I just reject Riverside's premise that XJT was trying to take over Horizon's routes when those routes didn't even exist until XJT serviced them.

Seems that Riverside's a flamer, hopefully he'll learn the error of his ways. :rolleyes:

XJT’s branded flying will be sorely missed by many, myself included.


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