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b18onboost 09-02-2008 11:50 AM

Just called GLA today and was told to get more time
 
So I have about 320TT and 9 ME on my resume and was told by HR that i need to get around 750TT to be competitive. I think it's safe to say that GLA is flooded with all the 121 guys now.

Slice 09-02-2008 12:00 PM

Good for them! Get out there and build hours(CFI, banner tow, pipeline, etc). It will make you a better pilot and put hair on your chest.

dimondan 09-02-2008 12:05 PM

Try getting internal recommendations... They help... Plus, you need 20 hours ME min. in the 300 hour range.

DeadHead 09-02-2008 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by dimondan (Post 454349)
Try getting internal recommendations... They help... Plus, you need 20 hours ME min. in the 300 hour range.

Or maybe try getting some actual time and experience...

cbire880 09-02-2008 12:10 PM

Sheesh, I had to have 1200 total and 100 ME just to fly a King Air 200 back in 2004. Things have changed when 9 ME is thought to be enough to walk into an airline. Have you flown anything outside of your ME training? Go out, have some fun and get some experience in the system. I wouldn't have thought of doing anything but instructing at that point in my career.

Diver Driver 09-02-2008 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by b18onboost (Post 454331)
So I have about 320TT and 9 ME on my resume and was told by HR that i need to get around 750TT to be competitive. I think it's safe to say that GLA is flooded with all the 121 guys now.

Uhh... ya. I'm actually surprised they didn't laugh at you when you spoke with them... Get about 800TT/100ME and try again. Once jet regionals start hiring again, you will probably need more like 1,000TT/200ME until all these furloughed guys find their place again. Shoot, when times were good (last year), you still needed about 600-800TT/50-100ME just to get interviewed at Comair, ASA, CHQ, SKW, Eagle, etc. and even then that was still very low time.

BoredwLife 09-02-2008 12:31 PM

These kids just don't get it do they. 320tt? I got more time than that on the crapper of a dash-8. And thats not easy to get.

Go get some experience so when you do go fly for a regional the capt isn't have to do your job and his.

steak pilot 09-02-2008 12:32 PM

I wouldnt recomend anyone walk into an airline interview with 9ME, not even Lakes, thats crazy. On the positive side; it's better to be turned down now rather than have a 121 ground school failure on your record.


I think it's safe to say that GLA is flooded with all the 121 guys now.
On the contrary, many of those guys/galls who are geting furloghed are affraid to come to Lakes, think its bad juju. Most are not comming here. The ones that are comming here are the ones that have been here before and know what kind of place Lakes is. Those people returning are comming back as Captains. They are not takking the FO's slots that are very much open.

My advise, get some more Mult time, get your MEI. You have to have 15hrs PIC ME to qualify for the MEI ticket anyway. Rent a bucket twin and fly, while working with an instructor towards the MEI. Thats what I did!

Cheers

Nightsky 09-02-2008 12:34 PM

9 ME hours? Sheesh times have changed. I needed 200 ME minimum just to apply to the regionals way back when. Hang in there, before you know it I'll have left this industry and you can have my slot.

flynavyj 09-02-2008 12:45 PM

Well, i'm not gonna knock ya, or beat you up on your multi time. You said it yourself, the 121 guys are taking the jobs that were once being filled by even the low time pilots. As the market gets saturated the minimums will come up until the number of applicants decreases significantly. It all happened rather quickly, but things went from newly licensed pilots getting jobs out of college, to 10,000 hr pilots being put on the street, things are more competitive everywhere. More competitive to the guy with 300 hrs, and more competitive for the guy with 737,757,767 on his resume' .

Don't beat yourself up over it. A few years ago i sent my resume over to lakes. Didn't even get a phone call, instead was graced with a letter saying "please apply when you have more experience". No biggie, i wasn't expecting an offer anyway, and just continued instructing. By that fall, i'd found myself into a regional job, sitting right seat, and thinking "wow, don't know if i was really ready for this." By the time i got passed that, they had me thinking the same thing from the left seat.

Your time will come.

On Autopilot 09-02-2008 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Diver Driver (Post 454362)
Uhh... ya. I'm actually surprised they didn't laugh at you when you spoke with them... Get about 800TT/100ME and try again. Once jet regionals start hiring again, you will probably need more like 1,000TT/200ME until all these furloughed guys find their place again. Shoot, when times were good (last year), you still needed about 600-800TT/50-100ME just to get interviewed at Comair, ASA, CHQ, SKW, Eagle, etc. and even then that was still very low time.

It went lower. the above mentioned airlines except CHQ and SKW all dropped thier mins, eagle wanted a wet commercial with at least 50 hours m.e., Comair posted 600/100, but hired peole with far less time than that, if you went to a jet bridge or were an employee. Wonder how many folks got on with Comair has a ramper, did that for 3 months then put in transfer papers?

Methinks this raising of mins is only temporary, once the backlog clears they will go back to wet comm. inst. tickets, just a matter of time.

RightSide 09-02-2008 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by b18onboost (Post 454331)
So I have about 320TT and 9 ME on my resume and was told by HR that i need to get around 750TT to be competitive. I think it's safe to say that GLA is flooded with all the 121 guys now.

WOW........

CRJDriver 09-02-2008 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by b18onboost (Post 454331)
So I have about 320TT and 9 ME on my resume and was told by HR that i need to get around 750TT to be competitive. I think it's safe to say that GLA is flooded with all the 121 guys now.

Is this a joke? :rolleyes:

The Juice 09-02-2008 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by b18onboost (Post 454331)
So I have about 320TT and 9 ME on my resume and was told by HR that i need to get around 750TT to be competitive. I think it's safe to say that GLA is flooded with all the 121 guys now.

I think you are missing the point. It is not that GLA is flooded with 121 guys it is that 320 and 9 is so far away from where you need to be.

Do you really think you have any business sitting right seat of a 121 carrier with 320TT and 9 hours multi?

Seriously, not trying to be a jerk but you have zero business flying for an airline with those time. Zero point Zero. I mean, you have only 9 more hours than my grandma in a twin.

Squawk_5543 09-02-2008 01:41 PM

9 ME!!!!!!! Are you kidding me?? I would be embarrassed to send a resume to anyone with that time. Dude please get some experience first before you wanna fly people around.

sqwkvfr 09-02-2008 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by cbire880 (Post 454353)
Sheesh, I had to have 1200 total and 100 ME just to fly a King Air 200 back in 2004. Things have changed when 9 ME is thought to be enough to walk into an airline. Have you flown anything outside of your ME training? Go out, have some fun and get some experience in the system. I wouldn't have thought of doing anything but instructing at that point in my career.

Right now, I can't even get a nibble for a King Air gig with 2500/800!

shaunster9797 09-02-2008 02:06 PM

I totally agree with the posts above. I was fortunate enough that when I had 10hrs ME I was offered a job flying right seat in a King Air for a 135 operation. The only reason I got that break was because I worked line service for the very same company. If you want to get into something quick look for a job at your local airport. There are lots of old birds that will take ya up and maybe even let you borrow the plane to build time.
Or simply banner tow! Either way enjoy your time building experience because once you move on to fly bigger and better things so comes bigger challenges and headaches.

whiskerbizkit 09-02-2008 02:12 PM

I remember 1500/500 was the min

usmc-sgt 09-02-2008 02:53 PM

I think we can close this one.

We have all established that 1000TT and 100ME is LOW TIME in todays market and that 320TT and 9ME is low time in any market.


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