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09-03-2008, 11:58 AM

resetjet

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EV Ready Reserve

Tried to find it in the contract to no avail. Does anybody know if there is a limit to how many times you can be assigned ready reserve in a given time period?

09-03-2008, 12:08 PM

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I don't have a copy with me but I know that there IS a limit to how many times they may issue RR each month. I want to say that it was somewhere around 6 times a month. Keeping you at the airport without assignment for more than 4 hours qualifies as RR. I could be a little off but that is what I remember it to be.

09-03-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by resetjet

Tried to find it in the contract to no avail. Does anybody know if there is a limit to how many times you can be assigned ready reserve in a given time period?

6 Ready Reserve Days per month per section 13.O.7.b(8)

Here is a link to the current contract.
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09-03-2008, 04:10 PM

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Anyone else find RRR popping up on their schedule much more often? What was a once/twice monthly event is now becoming a weekly drive-in.

I'm not complaining about working, but each time it gets assigned on, say, day 3 or 4 of a 5 day reserve period - effectively nixing the chances of picking up a nice long trip because someone called in sick at the last minute while you're chilling in the crew lounge. Some per diem would be nice - I only had two overnights last month!

Then again, I'm happy to have a job at this point.

09-03-2008, 05:15 PM

todd1200

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Anyone else find RRR popping up on their schedule much more often?

Yeah, I went a few months without getting it once, now it's 3 or 4 times a month. It'd be nice if they followed the bucket or something. Also something to watch the scheduling dept. on - they're required to give us 11 hrs. rest after an assignment that ends in domicile, but they routinely schedule me for ready reserve until midnight, then back on short call @ 9 the next morning. Not a big deal, and they change it to 11am when I call them on it, but it's kind of annoying that they keep doing it. Even more so when the flow board shows all the flights have departed, but they still expect you to sit around the airport.

09-03-2008, 05:37 PM

willi075

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Originally Posted by todd1200

...It'd be nice if they followed the bucket or something....

I think they throw a dart at the reserve list and assign it... that's one of those non-bucket things. However, I've been getting 1400-2200 while on 0900 call, they still have a short period of availability from 0900~1000 on the schedule, so it doesn't completely F-up your chances of getting a long trip.

09-03-2008, 05:48 PM

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They had 3 FO's there the other night, I know there isn't much flying to be had right now and I'm lucky to have a job but it's getting a little ridiculous. It sucks spending the money to get there and it seems like they are doing it just so we have something appear on our schedule and they can say we've been given assignments. Last month I had 2 overnights and 4 ready reserves.....

09-03-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by afterburn81

Scheduling can't keep you at the airport as a reserve without an assignment for more than 1 hour.

Ready reserve, however, would count as an assignment. Scheduling has to actually assign RR to you, they can't just tell you to sit around the airport for more than the 1 hour period.

09-04-2008, 03:26 AM

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Actually, scheduling can extend you at the airport for up to 2 hours (5 hours IROPs), as long as it does not extend past your original on-call period. Not everything in the new contract changed for the better. Section 13.K.1 specifies it applies to reserves and 13.K.2.c is the new rule.

http://www.asacontract.com/pa/contra...Scheduling.pdf

09-04-2008, 07:08 AM

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http://www.asacontract.com/pa/contra...Scheduling.pdf

Nope, you are wrong. The 2/5 hour thing applies to lineholders (notice how it's under 13.K.2 which is titled "Regular Pilots"), and then only if say your last round trip cancels (if a RT trip cancels in the middle of day 2, obviously you're going to be sitting at the airport until your overnight flight).

13.K.1 means that they can extend/reschedule a reserve pilot at will (that's kind of the point of being on reserve), not that they are subject to the rescheduling rules that lineholders have.

Again, as a reserve, unless you are told you are on ready reserve, scheduling may only keep you at the airport for 1 hour without an assignment. If they then give you an assignment for a flight that departs 4 hours from now, that 4 hour time period counts as one day of ready reserve.