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Spooled 09-04-2008 06:22 AM

Mesaba Uniform Question
 
I've noticed a few of the Mesaba guys are wearing their epaulets upside down? I even mentioned it to one of the FO's. His repose was "I know. Thanks". He didn't change it, so I must be out of the loop or something..

Anyone know what the significance is?

CRJDriver 09-04-2008 06:27 AM

I don't fly for Mesaba, but I heard the CRJ900 pilots, or "9 drivers" like they call themselves wear them like that. :rolleyes:

blastoff 09-04-2008 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by CRJDriver (Post 455565)
I don't fly for Mesaba, but I heard the CRJ900 pilots, or "9 drivers" like they call themselves wear them like that. :rolleyes:

That is the single most retarded thing I have ever heard...maybe if they were in a labor dispute, but that's unbelievable.

jayray2 09-04-2008 06:58 AM

I heard from a NWA captain that Mesaba is getting more Saabs...Possibly the AE Saabs??

Squawk_5543 09-04-2008 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by CRJDriver (Post 455565)
I don't fly for Mesaba, but I heard the CRJ900 pilots, or "9 drivers" like they call themselves wear them like that. :rolleyes:


Sorry gotta call some BS on this one. I have yet to see one of our 900 pilots doing anything of the sort. And if you do see one....follow him into a dark alley and....well you know ;)

BankAngle09 09-04-2008 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Spooled (Post 455561)
I've noticed a few of the Mesaba guys are wearing their epaulets upside down? I even mentioned it to one of the FO's. His repose was "I know. Thanks". He didn't change it, so I must be out of the loop or something..

Anyone know what the significance is?


HAHA you shot his ego down im sure...he prolly headed straight to the bathroom and changed em around.

Andrew_VT 09-04-2008 08:06 AM

I call BS as well. As soon as this rumor hit these forums a few of our captains went on a mission to get to the bottom of it. It turned out it was ONE incident of ONE new MSP -900 FO who didn't realize they were upside down for a day. When he was told, he was embarrassed. The whole issue has since been a lesson in how gossip can spread within a company and how quickly the crewroom talk makes it onto the internet.

Even during recurrent this rumor was brought up many times a day... the captain who was on the case from the start was getting pretty frustrated trying to set everyone straight. At this point the truth isn't even important anymore.

xjsaab 09-04-2008 04:09 PM

BS this is a urban legend that won't die.

Spooled 09-04-2008 05:07 PM

Fine ima gonna snap a picture this week. I'll post it when I get back later next week. Then ya'll shall believe.

jayray2 09-04-2008 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Spooled (Post 455988)
Fine ima gonna snap a picture this week. I'll post it when I get back later next week. Then ya'll shall believe.

I want to believe.

Andrew_VT 09-04-2008 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Spooled (Post 455988)
Fine ima gonna snap a picture this week. I'll post it when I get back later next week. Then ya'll shall believe.

make sure you get his/her (mostly joking about the her...but you never know!)
face in the picture too, silver eps and blue pants are pretty easy to come by.

xjsaab 09-04-2008 06:09 PM

Yeah whatever

GliderCFI 09-04-2008 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Andrew_VT (Post 456034)
make sure you get his/her (mostly joking about the her...but you never know!)
face in the picture too, silver eps and blue pants are pretty easy to come by.

Not in Detroit. All those uniforms belong to Mahsahbuh

Flyboy8784 09-04-2008 08:47 PM

I was in PWM last night and sure as hell....the FO had his stripes on backwards......I didnt say anything as it was 4am....but they are out there...

The Colgan Kids are much worse....hang around BOS for an hour and count how many backwards stripes you see :p

gredenko 09-04-2008 09:40 PM

It's probably overblown gossip to some degree, but I can personally say that I've seen it. As previously posted, it was on an MSP shuttle bus last winter. The FO was a -900 driver, and was gloating that he was on the 9 to an NWA mainliner.

PLEASE don't post any pics of our guys doing this...walking around like this is bad, but having the picture printed out and sent across the CP's desk would be even worse. I think this is more of a pro stans. issue.

For once and all, the Eagle Saabs are NOT coming to XJ. They're going to REX, a big regional in Australia. From Wikipedia:

Aircraft orders
Rex has ordered 25 ex American Eagle SAAB 340B Plus aircraft, which have extended wingtips (offered as an option on Saab 340B Plus aircraft) to increase flight performance and fuel efficiency, plus improved interior soundproofing. The first was originally scheduled to arrive in late 2006, however Rex took delivery of the first on April 30, 2007; it entered service on June 6th. By March 2008, nine had been delivered, bringing the REX fleet to 40. The 340B Plus aircraft (which will have 34 blue leather seats) will be painted in the REX livery prior to delivery and are fitted with the optional Hamilton Standard propellers (present on all current and former American Eagle Saab 340B aircraft) instead of the Dowty Rotol propellers fitted to the existing fleet.

One of the planes being ferried:
FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > N382AE

shaunster9797 09-04-2008 09:51 PM

seeing is believing. I feel sorry for the poor Ba$tard that ends up in that pic and gets a call from his CP

BIGRIG 09-05-2008 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by CRJDriver (Post 455565)
I don't fly for Mesaba, but I heard the CRJ900 pilots, or "9 drivers" like they call themselves wear them like that. :rolleyes:

As hard as you might find it to believe, XJ CRJ-900/"9 Drivers" dont go around and brag about the airplane they fly. As much as you might like to think they do. Why is it so terrible if they call their aircraft the "9"? Is that what we are worrying about today? Is the DC-9 the only aircraft that can be called a "9"?

Spooled-Why dont you concentrate on your own companies problems (and stop worrying about one new hire XJ FO) plenty to keep you busy there.

yacko 09-05-2008 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by BIGRIG (Post 456273)
As hard as you might find it to believe, XJ CRJ-900/"9 Drivers" dont go around and brag about the airplane they fly. As much as you might like to think they do. Why is it so terrible if they call their aircraft the "9"? Is that what we are worrying about today? Is the DC-9 the only aircraft that can be called a "9"?

Spooled-Why dont you concentrate on your own companies problems (and stop worrying about one new hire XJ FO) plenty to keep you busy there.

I agree, this is the most ret??ded thread I have seen. Probably a new dude didn't know how to put his stripes on correctly and then didnt want to admit it when called out. Who cares....Also, I have never heard any 900 guys running around bragging about their plane. Its complete luck of the draw what plane we got assigned as new hires as far as I know. In fact, most 900 FO's I talk with wish they were on the Saab because thats where they will most likely upgrade to. Worry about yourself and your own company. God, now I just wasted two minutes of my life writing this crap..

CRJDriver 09-05-2008 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by BIGRIG (Post 456273)
As hard as you might find it to believe, XJ CRJ-900/"9 Drivers" dont go around and brag about the airplane they fly. As much as you might like to think they do. Why is it so terrible if they call their aircraft the "9"? Is that what we are worrying about today? Is the DC-9 the only aircraft that can be called a "9"?

Spooled-Why dont you concentrate on your own companies problems (and stop worrying about one new hire XJ FO) plenty to keep you busy there.

Umm... all I said is that is "what I have heard or read". I really don't give a rats a$$ what you guys do at Mesaba. I got on my own problems at my airline.

boeingt7 09-05-2008 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by BIGRIG (Post 456273)
As hard as you might find it to believe, XJ CRJ-900/"9 Drivers" dont go around and brag about the airplane they fly. As much as you might like to think they do. Why is it so terrible if they call their aircraft the "9"? Is that what we are worrying about today? Is the DC-9 the only aircraft that can be called a "9"?

Spooled-Why dont you concentrate on your own companies problems (and stop worrying about one new hire XJ FO) plenty to keep you busy there.

actually, i have heard some 900 guys up on their high horse bragging about the plane. but why would they call it the "9" anyway. shouldn't it be the 9...hundred? i don't call the saab the 3, or the three fo.

Jamers 09-05-2008 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Flyboy8784 (Post 456144)

The Colgan Kids are much worse....hang around BOS for an hour and count how many backwards stripes you see :p


Yeah, but that's because they don't know any better, or they just don't care. There is nothing to brag about at Colgan.

usmc-sgt 09-05-2008 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Flyboy8784 (Post 456144)

The Colgan Kids are much worse....hang around BOS for an hour and count how many backwards stripes you see :p

Not just Colgan. I have saved many new Colgan FOs who have walked into the crew room on day 1 with upside down stripes. They just dont know any better because it is the first time they have ever put on epauletes. I know that colgan guys are not alone on this one. Not a protest, just naivety.

Side note: I was in PWM last night also but got there at 2pm and was out at 6:05am.

Spooled 09-05-2008 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by yacko (Post 456294)
Who cares....Also, I have never heard any 900 guys running around bragging about their plane. Its complete luck of the draw what plane we got assigned as new hires as far as I know. In fact, most 900 FO's I talk with wish they were on the Saab because thats where they will most likely upgrade to.

I wasn't trying to hate boys. I was just wondering if there was some significance to uniform deal.....I reckon ya'll need to calm down.

BIGRIG 09-05-2008 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by boeingt7 (Post 456495)
actually, i have heard some 900 guys up on their high horse bragging about the plane. but why would they call it the "9" anyway. shouldn't it be the 9...hundred? i don't call the saab the 3, or the three fo.

Should they say that the 900/"9" is a piece of junk? I hear a lot about how great the Saab is(I've never flown it). But as soon as a 900/"9" guy says that he likes his airplane, people take it personally, like a dis on the Saab/Tree Fo or 200/"2". From what I have heard, its a pretty nice plane(Never been on one).

They can call it whatever they want. You know what they are talking about if they are an XJ FO.

Mason32 09-05-2008 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 456502)
Not just Colgan. I have saved many new Colgan FOs who have walked into the crew room on day 1 with upside down stripes. They just dont know any better because it is the first time they have ever put on epauletes. I know that colgan guys are not alone on this one. Not a protest, just naivety.

Side note: I was in PWM last night also but got there at 2pm and was out at 6:05am.


Wow, I know the newer breed was hired before they could really fly, but I didn't know they couldn't dress either.

ExperimentalAB 09-05-2008 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 456610)
Wow, I know the newer breed was hired before they could really fly, but I didn't know they couldn't dress either.

Well they've never had to dress themselves before!!

proskuneho 09-05-2008 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 456629)
Well they've never had to dress themselves before!!

Really guys! Did you have to wear stripes when you were CFIs? I had to wear a tie for years until I switched schools. Maybe instead of slamming their apparent lack of maturity you could do what someone surely did for you - mentor them and look out for them. :rolleyes:


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