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STILL GROUNDED 03-24-2006 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by fosters
If I were a MAG employee I would be upset. The CEO is p!!sing away your pay raises come contract time running CRJ's for $39 a ticket...


PAY RAISES!!!!!!! Were Getting PAY RAISES!!!!!!! All right no more govt cheese.

Hobbs 03-24-2006 08:06 PM

Ha ha govt cheese!!! It would be funnier if it weren't true.

rickair7777 03-25-2006 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by fosters
If I were a MAG employee I would be upset. The CEO is p!!sing away your pay raises come contract time running CRJ's for $39 a ticket...

I would be too. The whole thing might be a strategic move, designed to "fail" next year just in time for contract negotiations so Mesa can negotiate from a "downsizing" position. The junior PFT pilots at Mesa are terrified of getting furloughed since they are generally unemployable elsewhere.

Rama 03-25-2006 12:48 PM

JO will soon be announcing reduced pilot wages to go with his reduced fares at Go.

XtremeF150 03-25-2006 04:07 PM

Well, hopefully there are enough people out there that won't accept this. I Know for one I will not budge on a contract with less pay or benefits, I don't care if offers us 777's to fly the islands with. Hopefully most in the regionals will soon learn they have everything to gain from helping the industry get back on its feet. They need to rememeber that the disgruntled capt's don't have to work in this environement for many more years. If your 25 -30 this should greatly worry you as you have the next 30+ years to deal with the web your weaving. :(

xtremeF150

KingofClubs 03-25-2006 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777
Yes, but you have it backwards. Mesa has a lot of money, and many other profitable ventures to carry the HI operation for an extended period....how long can Hawiian and Aloha match low fares throughout their primary market? It all comes down to how long is JO willing to stick it out.


hmm..well true, but how much of Aloha's flying is Mesa covering?? 4-6 planes is not a lot... I'd guess that Aloha and Hawaiian make bank bringing people from the mainland. I'm guessing they can match a few routes at $39.... But you are right, JO can afford to last longer. But, i'm guessing he will never fill his flights.

What kind of press is he getting over there? is the average traveler excited about this new airline?? where they very high in the first place?? Indy had a warm welcome all over the east coast thanks to the high ticket prices out there.

Pilotpip 03-25-2006 05:01 PM

XtremeF150,

Well said. I couldn't agree with you more. A number of Mesa guys and gals on here are saying "wait until 2007". I hope for their sake, as well as everybody else here that they're right!

rickair7777 03-25-2006 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by KingofClubs
hmm..well true, but how much of Aloha's flying is Mesa covering?? 4-6 planes is not a lot... I'd guess that Aloha and Hawaiian make bank bringing people from the mainland. I'm guessing they can match a few routes at $39.... But you are right, JO can afford to last longer. But, i'm guessing he will never fill his flights.

What kind of press is he getting over there? is the average traveler excited about this new airline?? where they very high in the first place?? Indy had a warm welcome all over the east coast thanks to the high ticket prices out there.

I suspect that the way this is going to work out is that some locals will stick with the legacies, since they also use them to go to the mainland.

Mesa will get some local traffic, but I'd bet dollars to pineapples that a code share with one or more mainland majors will be announced soon...the mainland tourist traffic will go for the codeshare so they can stick with THEIR home airline and get their frequent fliers. I'm guessing confidently that that is a key part of the business plan.

The 4-6 planes is just for starters...and it sounds like 900's are in the long-term plan.

KRAZO 03-28-2006 04:09 PM

Hawaii is brutal on aircraft. GO will be GONE when the first "C" Checks come around.

rickair7777 03-28-2006 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by KRAZO
Hawaii is brutal on aircraft. GO will be GONE when the first "C" Checks come around.

C Checks? Lot cheaper to just to pick more used 200s at the ol' desert lot...


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