What would YOU be willing to do for pilot unity?
 

A recent thread asked why we are willing to accept low pay. Many replies commented on the lack of unity and the willingness of many to work for less. So, I ask, what would YOU be willing to do to force higher pay? Slow down? Sick out? WILDCAT STRIKE?

Imagine for a moment if ALL regional pilots walked out.... even for just one day? Would you be willing?

I would love to strike but thanks to our great government and the rla our unions do not have the ability to do it .what is the point if it takes you 5 years to get the ok to do it they have taken the unions balls away.the sky is falling

What does the RLA say about not union workers being able to strike?

The good thing: it would show unity.

The bad thing: The courts would allow the airlines to sue each union out of existence financially. Ala AMR.

Result: Management wins since it would put unions effectively out of business. Union leaders will be held accountable legally regardless of who is in Congress or the White House. Would pay fines or jail time.
Bad idea.

Better unity idea: Support union pilots at all companies. Negotiate sympathy strike language in your contracts. Example: If your company has a Legacy contract, and Company A, B, C all have similiar contract with Legacy, Any legal strike at ANY company involved allows your union to strike as well. This leverages union influence. Starts to take away the ability to wedge the pilot groups. Takes a long time, coordination among unions. There is an idea that is realistic and would get the attention of managements.

Good idea, but with some of the existing regionals out there, there isn't a SINGLE management out there that would let that be negotiated into a CBA. Seriously, do you think JO, or even BB or JA would allow that? Look what MESA pilots had to forgo in their last CBA just to rid themselves of the FreeDumb fiasco.

Also think about this; When an RFP is put out, and there is a contractor out there that is non-union, or doesn't have such such language in their CBA, who do you think is going to get the new awarded flying?

Then don't sign the contract unless it has it period. Let it go through the RLA five year BS.... let it go to mediation.... eventually, when you walk off, you'll get it, or he'll go BK.... in either case the industry is better off. and when the next pilot group wants it, and holds out... they will give in long before it makes it to a strike. You think just like management wants you to think... stop it. I would be willing to bet that each and every one of your company manuals says to instantly write up any, ANY, defect with the plane.... how often is that done? How many times do small things like a loose screw, or a rubber handgrip that needs glue wait for the last flight to be written up and fixed overnight? Why do you people play THEIR games. The FAA, the public, and the company's own manuals tell you the right thing to do.... but yet, there is this peer pressure to "get the job done."..... FOR WHAT? to line JO's pockets, or PB's pockets, or AMR's pockets.... and all at whose expense?

If you want to see the real idiots here; look in the mirror.

And when that non-union contractor gets the job.... unless he/she opens a base there, how do you plan to get their non-union pilots to/from work on union piloted planes? He may get the contract, but he won't keep it. You need to stop thinking the way they have trained you to think... no union, no ride. simple idea.

Dude, you better settle down, you're gonna soil your drawers.


Sorry, I think just like management thinks? Excuse me? Where is that coming from?

You do know that a FOM and a CBA are two COMPLETELY separate things, don't you?


You sure you wanna go down the road of name calling?

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Nice edit job on the post. But seriously, where are you getting this "trained to think" bs from?

But sure, hey, go start a jumpseat war. Look how well that turned out for the UAL JFK based guys that chose to start one back in 2005.

I bet you don't have the first clue as to what Im talking about, do you?

It was meant to include the rhetorical as well.... basically a blanket statement aimed at us all.

I'll take the bet; I'm older than you seem to think.