Who's Staying Around?
 

Guys, I ask this question to a a lotta guys that I know flying Conx for Delta and NWA. Does anybody know which carriers are gonna remain after the merger? In that, I mean, thats a lotta redundant flying by Compass, Shuttle America, Mesaba, Pinnacle, ASA, Comair, Skywest, Chautauqua, so do any of you guys know who is going to still be around? It seems like something's gotta give when this thing goes down, and thats a lotta airlines for that flying for "one" airline. Thanks in advance.

Chox

Not sure what it means, but Mesaba and Compass are hiring...

Not really sure if any regional airline would vanish after the merger takes place. I mean the schedules might be reduced a lot in some areas ... but i think it would take more than a merger to completely knock off a regional carrier from flying for the big guys. I could be completely wrong about this, but i think most of the DAL NW regionals will be alright, just get some cutbacks in schedules, and possibly some furloughs

We'll all find out when then put out a press release

Not sure what it means, but Skybus was holding a job fair with open interviews in GSO at 7:00 the night before they shut the doors.

Not sure what it means, but Comair, Fredom, and CHQ are furloughing...

Good one dude. They'll be "pleased to announce", and it will be "mutual".

There's a good reason there are so many regional carriers for each major...capitalism! The majors get a better price when there's more competition. Unless a regional is doing terrible work for them, there's no reason for a major to get rid of any carrier.

your guess is as good as mine or the next guys. if your looking at a place to go check out their contract and work rules and compare them also look at how the company is doing financially. Mesa is in a very tight financial spot and some companies are better suited to handle this economy. Even if you hedge your bet and go with the #1 regional now... two years or sometimes less is all it takes to go from 1st to last. It is a gamble so rub your rabbits foot

edit: sorry i thought you were looking at it from outside the industry. I did not realize your a 170 fo. cheers

my feeling is take a lucky eight ball shake it and see how it works out for ya...you have just as good a probablity of right

There's no way to tell. If I was forced to put money down I'd pick ASA and CHQ in no particular order.

ASA because of 50 seat feed in CRJs which require more MX and burn more fuel than ERJs.

CHQ because of 50 seat feed, overlapping markets with other regionals, no DAL based aircraft, and CHQ management's willingness to drop ERJs if DAL will take additional E-jets.

Of course performance numbers will speak volumes. Haven't seen any of those.

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It means they have an immediate need for pilots. Nobody in this business does anything with the, "it might happen" idea.

As far as the 100 instrument for the Mesaba job, what do they really want? do they want 100 hours of actual or 100 hours of any instrument time including hood work and sim??

You may want to post your concerns over in the Mesaba new hire thread, you'll probably get a better answer over there. Scan back a couple pages too you find the answer as someone else probably had this question too.

Actually, there is a "safe" bet. The mulit-uniform shops that don't own flying nor bring anything of interest outside of cost brings very little to a management team post bancruptcy like NWA / DELTA. Post bancruptcy management makes their money by showing growth, performance numbers and happy labor groups. Investors bring in more money when they see this and the stock goes up. The CEO then punches out with stock options as the parachute. It's going back to the "good ol' days" post bancruptcy. The days of management getting "theirs" by the likes that we've seen over the last 6 years are sinking very fast. See the trustee / management conversation for the Frontier bancruptcy filing for further and future dialog between the government, their lawyers and the bancruptcy courts.

This whole "bailout" issue is bringing to light that CEO's have been punching out with, beyond, rediculous parachute's and the government, and society, have taken notice.

Management will have to earn "theirs" the old fashioned way.....see first paragraph.

That said, keeping as much money in house with wholly owned properties adds to bottom lines in SO many avenues not easily seen than by the contracts that nickel and dime (big picture) labor costs. That's just one part of it and not as big as some might think post bancruptcy.

Anderson has already said he's interested in pairing the regionals down "tremedously". I would not feel comfortable at any non-wholly owned company right now. JMHInput.


"Wait...Wait....Wait.....and boom goes the dynamite."

Based on what? Your statement is speculation.

It's all about cost. It always has been and always will be especially in times of desperation. Didn't happen after 911.


Whether a regional is owned or not has nothing to do with how much money is kept in house. Expenses are expenses and income is income. DAL isn't going to pass on a regional that makes them more money thus putting more cash in their account simply because they want to have their name stamped to a regional carrier. Notice how everyone's been trying to sell theirs lately?

Yes he wants less regionals but he's not going to go inhouse only. He's been trying to sell Comair.

Ha! Tell that to the Comair poolies. They were hiring for projected growth.

I believe 100 hours total including actual, hood and sim. They look at the overall picture not just hours although it would give you the edge if you meet or exceed the required minimums. Post your questions at Mesaba thread to get better feel for it. Mesaba is interviewing for pilots everyday of the week and have classes every other week according to interviewers at HQ.