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evilboy 10-23-2008 08:19 AM

Mesaba Interview
 
Hi y'all,
Have an interview with Mesaba middle of Nov. Hoping anyone can give me some sort of gouge for it.
Thanks.

Riverside 10-23-2008 08:48 AM

If you do a google search and type in mesaba interview, that should help you out a lot.:)

RightSide 10-23-2008 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by evilboy (Post 484207)
Hi y'all,
Have an interview with Mesaba middle of Nov. Hoping anyone can give me some sort of gouge for it.
Thanks.

Numerous posts about this in the "mesaba new hires" section. Just do a little more checking around.

Max Glide 10-23-2008 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by RightSide (Post 484222)
Numerous posts about this in the "mesaba new hires" section. Just do a little more checking around.

Don't even bother going to 'Mesaba New Hires' thread. It's ridiculously long and you don’t have to waste time looking there for information. Granted there might be useful info, but why waste time when you can get the details without having to read hundred of pages.

Go to ‘aviationinterviews.com’ and you should be able to find all you need. The process has not changed much at all.

Good Luck with the interview!

Colnago 10-23-2008 10:29 AM

I wrote this on aviationinterviews.com, hope it helps:
Most of the other gouges are very similar. I think you need to be a member to access all of them, though.


Interview experience:
Prior to interviewing, I read the more current gouges. They were pretty much spot on.

I stayed overnight at the Best Western, $80 total (make sure you mention you're a Mesaba interviewee). My hotel room was adjacent to the highway. If that is something that would bother you, look elsewhere.

Our day began slightly earlier than the expected 7:30AM. We were all there by 7:15AM, so we began a little bit earlier. We got a presentation from one of the HR guys. They broke down some of the more generic stuff, company info, etc...They were clear to state they were unsure as to why they were hiring. The HR person mentioned they were just told to hire without any specific reason.

After the brief presentation, we took the Wonderlic test. It is almost like a pamphlet. It made me feel as if I was taking one of those city-wide elementary school tests, hehe. There were 50 questions, 12 minutes given. Most people only got around 20-25 questions done. They were very very simple questions. If you can do some mental math, you should be just fine.

At the completion of the Wonderlic, the HR person had us take an IFR knowledge test. There are no surprises in it. If you review the Gleim, you will most definitely be just fine. There were NO ATP WRITTEN questions. Many of the questions involved holding entry scenarios, holding speeds, approach minimums...very basic info. One of the questions which stomped some of us, not because it was difficult, but because of carelessness, was a descent planning question. (e.g. "You are 25 miles away, altitude,18000' from X VOR. If ATC requests you to cross a 10DME fix by 10000', and your descent rate is 2000 ft/min, would you be able to make it?") <--It wasn't EXACTLY like that, but you get the point. Everything else in the written involved speed restrictions, airspace dimensions (I think), and very basic IFR stuff.

It was around 9:00AM after we got done with the test. We then went to the cafeteria and stayed there until we were called for fingerprinting. There were 8 of us interviewing this day. After everyone was done fingerprinting, we were given the schedule for the day at around 10AM. The schedule was divided into two groups of four. An HR representative and a line captain for each group.

I was the last one scheduled to interview in the list, interview time scheduled for 2:00PM.

It was a long wait in the cafeteria. The cafeteria is tiny and has only vending machines. Luckily for us, on Wednesdays, they have people bring some pots and sell some home-made style food for $5 or so. Make sure you bring something to munch on. I was starving throughout the day.

At around 2:30PM, I finally had a chance to interview. (they were running behind)
I was very relaxed meeting the two gentlemen. However, as soon as I sat and heard the silence, I started getting nervous. They introduced themselves, and began talking a little bit more about the interview. It was a 2-on-1 interview.

The HR portion of the interview asked the following:
-Are you aware of the pay rates and the earnings you would have as a first year FO? Is that something you would feel comfortable with? Are you willing to take this job for such low pay? (yes, I was asked this question)
-Do you have any moving violations? (I mentioned my exhibition driving ticket in my record)
-Have you failed any FAA checkrides? (You need not mention stage checks, though I did. They did not care about them and said those do not apply to the question)
-Tell me more about a time when you regretted going up flying.
-Tell me more about a time when you were concerned as to the outcome of the flight.
-You are ready to push back and a really good buddy of your captain wants to jump-seat. You are already at your weight limit. The captain tells you to fudge the numbers. How would you deal with the situation?
-Define Crew Resource Management. Does it only involve the captain and FO? (they probably want to hear you mention ground facilities, e.g. dispatchers, etc.)
-In your opinion, name two things that you believe are the MOST important to the safe flying. (I really don't know what they wanted to hear, it was very open-ended. To this day, I'm still scratching my head. I recall telling them "knowing your limits, whether environmental or personal," and "following policies/procedures as they were developed for a reason, usually after incidents or accidents have occurred." The captain was pushy and asked, "so you REALLY think those are important??" I stuck with my answer.)

That was about it for the HR questions.

The technical part of the interview went over enroute charts. I don't think there was anything specific they were looking for. The captain asked me random stuff he would find in the chart. (e.g. MOCAs, MEAs, MORAs, etc.) He pointed to a Class G area (outside of the victor airways). He asked me the dimensions of it (i.e. up to 14500). I answered it correctly and he was surprised, which was odd. He mentioned a lot of people get that wrong.

He asked me about holding speed at 6000. Don't let this confuse you as the max is still 200. He said that was something else that many people got wrong....odd...

He had me walk him through a full procedure approach. He tried pushing me into answering incorrectly. His question pertained to our flight being outside a published portion (he pointed at it in the app. plate) at 6000 ft and being cleared for the approach. He said, "so you're telling me you can't descend to 3000ft over here?" (pointing to an area no part of the published approach.) Stick to your answers. Don't let anyone trick you.

He also asked me CRJ questions (since I took one of those generic courses our University forced us to take). Too bad for me, I had NOT reviewed anything at all. I was honest and told him I wasn't prepared to answer CRJ questions. He made a remark, "I fly the Saab and EVEN I know the answer to those questions!" (kind of a rude thing to say, but I didn't react to it.) He didn't ask me about my last twin, so no system questions for me.

After that, they had me step out of the room, then came back and asked me to join them again and offered me a conditional offer of employment. Phew! (ok, the letter is VERY conditional. There's nothing to be happy about it as it is very generic.)

I then did the simulator portion. It was an OLD sim. No sound, no display, just a tabletop. DME had no digital representation, it was an analog needle with a limit of 25DME. ADF on the UPPER left side of the panel. Anyway, the sim evaluator was really cool. He briefed me on the sim, telling me tricks to it, etc, briefed me on the max speeds, etc.

He had me do steep turns. Then vectors to an ILS, went missed. After going missed, he moved me to disorient me...asked me to proceed to X VOR, gave me holding instructions. He had me brief the holding, and didn't even have to fly it. That was it. Very straight forward. I made sure to verbally announce everything I was doing. While some may think it's overkill, from an evaluator's standpoint, it makes the job so much easier when you know what the other person is thinking. Besides, it helped me keep a good flow throughout the sim session.

At the completion of the sim, we took a cab (at their expense, of course) to get drug tested. It was nearby the Mall of America. The drug test took 15 minutes, max, but that was because there were three of us from the group getting tested.

Side note: One thing to note was only 7 of the 8 interviewees made it to the sim portion of the day. One was sent back home for whatever reason, after the 2-on-1 interview.

Overall, a painless process. It was long but well worth it. I begin class on Nov. 3rd, CRJ-900. Good luck to all who interview! Hope this helps.

rorwizard 10-23-2008 04:17 PM

Don't screw up.


Seriously though... good luck... tell them you want the 200

Planenerd 10-23-2008 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by evilboy (Post 484207)
Hi y'all,
Have an interview with Mesaba middle of Nov. Hoping anyone can give me some sort of gouge for it.
Thanks.

Hey man i just interviewed on oct 14, if there was anything i wish i reviewed more of was just basic ifr knowledge, read the asa oral quiz guide, and review jeppsen approach plates and enroute charts, holding patterns. then go find a sim and do steep turns, and ndb holds.

good luck and try to relax

LIOG41 10-24-2008 07:55 AM

country inn and suites is $59, near HQ and will shuttle you to grab a bite to eat, good people and comfortable beds...tell them you're in for an interview with Mesaba.

proprat 10-25-2008 06:06 AM

I just interviewed last week and nothing has changed. IQ test is easy, just go for the first thing that comes to mind. Don't overthink them. IFR test is a couple of holds, vdp, dh, taf, landing mins from chart, apch lights from chart, required atc reports, frost formation, holding speeds, 123 rule, alternate mins, holding times.... nothing you can't find in the aim.
The interview is pretty basic as well. Tell me about a time when you... basic knowledge of the most recent aircraft flown, finger fly an approach, more mins questions, apch lighting, msa, why mesaba, how are you going to get through training. The gouge on aviationinterviews.com is very helpful.
Good luck

KentSt22 10-27-2008 01:37 PM

Hiring mins?
 
I know Mesaba's mins are 600 and 50. The thing that I'm not sure about is to 100 hours instrument (75 in last 90 days). Does anyone know if that is a deal breaker or will they accept with less than that? I have over 100 but not in the last 90 days. Seems like the only way to get that is to be flying with someone already, not flight instructing. Let me know! Thanks!

jaded 10-27-2008 02:55 PM

They wont really ask you on your interview when your last instrument logged time was... but make sure that it's at least reasonable... and not from 5 years ago.

proprat 10-27-2008 03:25 PM

No, don't worry about it. There are plenty furloughs that interview without a current flying job.

cfii2007 10-27-2008 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by KentSt22 (Post 486677)
I know Mesaba's mins are 600 and 50. The thing that I'm not sure about is to 100 hours instrument (75 in last 90 days). Does anyone know if that is a deal breaker or will they accept with less than that? I have over 100 but not in the last 90 days. Seems like the only way to get that is to be flying with someone already, not flight instructing. Let me know! Thanks!

I've always understood the 75 in last 90 was the total time requirement...and not instrument.

proprat 10-27-2008 06:27 PM

cfii2007 you're correct. The recency is for total time.

WIFlyer 10-28-2008 04:20 AM

Times are less important then being a decent person who we can get along with on a four day trip. Yes, if you can't fly the airplane you will fail training. However, that is a small minority of people and the training department is great. Just be honest and humble, be yourself (as many others have said) don't try to impress the interviewers, relax and you will be what they are looking for. If you are a know-it-all d-bag then you will not get the call.

rorwizard 10-28-2008 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by WIFlyer (Post 487098)
Times are less important then being a decent person who we can get along with on a four day trip. Yes, if you can't fly the airplane you will fail training. However, that is a small minority of people and the training department is great. Just be honest and humble, be yourself (as many others have said) don't try to impress the interviewers, relax and you will be what they are looking for. If you are a know-it-all d-bag then you will not get the call.

well put sir.

Max Glide 10-29-2008 08:17 AM

[quote=WIFlyer;487098]Times are less important then being a decent person who we can get along with on a four day trip. Yes, if you can't fly the airplane you will fail training. However, that is a small minority of people and the training department is great. Just be honest and humble, be yourself (as many others have said) don't try to impress the interviewers, relax and you will be what they are looking for. If you are a know-it-all d-bag then you will not get the call.[/quote]

Also, in the above case, if you fall through the cracks and make it to the ground school, sim, and IOE; you may be asked to leave while you're on the line. Like two in my class. Yep, various captains complained about the new hires' attitudes and they were both asked to leave within a month after completing IOE.

Also, when in the ground school, be very respectful to the Instructor: they know much more than most of us will ever know. This summer, one new hire, very young guy, was rude to the instructor; he was asked to pack up that very afternoon.

Good luck in training.

Max

CTPILOT 10-29-2008 08:20 AM

how long did it take for you folks to get a interview I sent my stuff in over a week ago?

proprat 10-29-2008 08:28 AM

I got a call a week after my buddy walked my stuff in to HR

spank 10-29-2008 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by CTPILOT (Post 488019)
how long did it take for you folks to get a interview I sent my stuff in over a week ago?

I waited appox. 3 weeks. Had a senior captain walk my stuff in to the Chief, but he said that's really not worth a lot. Seems like no news is good news for most. I got in before the big boom for the most part. Applied 9/7, interviewed 10/9, class date 11/3 CRJ900. Best of luck!

JetPipeOverht 10-29-2008 08:52 AM

Mesaba hiring right now, do they know something that we all don't ? Gearing up for something ?

CTPILOT 10-29-2008 08:54 AM

thanks for the info...I'll keep checking my email and prob do alittle brushing up on the AIM incase I get the interview

rorwizard 10-29-2008 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by JetPipeOverht (Post 488045)
Mesaba hiring right now, do they know something that we all don't ?

They do indeed...


Originally Posted by JetPipeOverht (Post 488045)
Gearing up for something ?

Probably. There are about 10 bazillion rumors out there, but in all honesty no one really knows for sure.

airjack 10-29-2008 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by CTPILOT (Post 488019)
how long did it take for you folks to get a interview I sent my stuff in over a week ago?

It took me roughly 3 to 4 weeks to receive an interview with Mesaba after applying. I have 900/30hrs. I have a non-aviation degree and I'm a CFI, CFII. I'm really looking forward to the interview especially since I'm on the verge of meeting their requirements. I'm not sure how I pulled it off and what they're looking for, but I'm not complaining.

cfii2007 10-29-2008 12:35 PM

Dumb question...but did Mesaba furlough at all this year???

airjack 10-29-2008 12:37 PM

[QUOTE=Max Glide;488016]

Originally Posted by WIFlyer (Post 487098)
Times are less important then being a decent person who we can get along with on a four day trip. Yes, if you can't fly the airplane you will fail training. However, that is a small minority of people and the training department is great. Just be honest and humble, be yourself (as many others have said) don't try to impress the interviewers, relax and you will be what they are looking for. If you are a know-it-all d-bag then you will not get the call.[/quote]

Also, in the above case, if you fall through the cracks and make it to the ground school, sim, and IOE; you may be asked to leave while you're on the line. Like two in my class. Yep, various captains complained about the new hires' attitudes and they were both asked to leave within a month after completing IOE.

Also, when in the ground school, be very respectful to the Instructor: they know much more than most of us will ever know. This summer, one new hire, very young guy, was rude to the instructor; he was asked to pack up that very afternoon.

Good luck in training.

Max

In my opinion, that's great to hear! Times are obviously tough in the aviation community and the last thing people need are other individuals with a sour attitude especially right out of training!

SmoothLanderJ 10-29-2008 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by cfii2007 (Post 488189)
Dumb question...but did Mesaba furlough at all this year???

Nope.......

PFactor 10-29-2008 02:00 PM

I want to ask a serious question here and no FLAME intended. I received a phone call from Mesaba about interviewing with them , and I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the financial issue. How does one walk in to a job where even after four years as an F/O your guarantee pay is only going to gross you just over 30K a year. Now I'm sure that if you hold a line you will work > the 75 hr. minimum, but that's a long time to be that poor. What are upgrade times looking like right now? Everyone I've talked to seems to love Mesaba, and I'm not trying to put the company down...I'm just uninformed I suppose. I guess I should ask how often do people break garauntee especially now with this hiring boom, I can imagine there will be a significant number of pilots sitting reserve.

Halp,
PFactor

submachXJ 10-29-2008 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Flyhigh770 (Post 488257)
we have 8 capt upgrades in our new hire class and they all started working here last summer

And since then depending on what part of summer doubled in size. I'm guessing upgrade will be longer for new hires.

WIFlyer 10-30-2008 04:02 AM

and I will most likely make about 35k on first/second year f/o pay in 2008

PFactor 10-30-2008 06:03 AM

So do you guys think all the new hires will be looking at a lengthy stay on the reserve list. I'm just trying to get a feel for what would REALLY happen. What are you all averaging monthly hour wise? WIflyer, I can see how if you've been flying a significant amount the financial situation wouldn't be so much of an issue. However, if all these new hires will be sitting reserve and their use doesn't break the 75 hour guarantee, that'd be rough. I don't care if I were to be assigned the 340 or the 900, I've flown jets and I just want a decent QOL.

Max Glide 10-30-2008 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by cfii2007 (Post 488189)
Dumb question...but did Mesaba furlough at all this year???

No furloughs at Mesaba this year.

Avroman 10-30-2008 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Max Glide (Post 488974)
No furloughs at Mesaba this year.

Careful, the year isn't over.... I'm just sayin....:cool:

submachXJ 10-30-2008 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by PFactor (Post 488735)
So do you guys think all the new hires will be looking at a lengthy stay on the reserve list. I'm just trying to get a feel for what would REALLY happen. What are you all averaging monthly hour wise? WIflyer, I can see how if you've been flying a significant amount the financial situation wouldn't be so much of an issue. However, if all these new hires will be sitting reserve and their use doesn't break the 75 hour guarantee, that'd be rough. I don't care if I were to be assigned the 340 or the 900, I've flown jets and I just want a decent QOL.

All depends on base and equipment when you get hired. Msp is generally harder to get and slower advancement while DTW and MEM have moved faster. Although MEM has not moved much in the past few months. Something may be going on there related to the merger.


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