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ThunderChicken 10-25-2008 04:37 PM

Asa Pc
 
Hey guys,

I have a PC coming up, its my first one, so if you guys have any advice, pointers, or know of things to study that I would overlook I would appreciate any input. Take care out there.

JetPipeOverht 10-25-2008 05:36 PM

Memory Items, Limitations, Profiles, Don't get too wrapped up in it and just try to relax and don't answer anything that's not asked of you.

atlmsl 10-25-2008 05:45 PM

Just had one the other week. Day 1 is review. They will know if you studied. They understand it has been a year since you've seen some of the stuff, so they're not going to try to make you look bad, just make sure you're proficient. Relax

USMC3197 10-25-2008 08:05 PM

What about a LOFT? Mine is next month and I haven't flow since 9/1

JetPipeOverht 10-25-2008 08:16 PM

You're given an impossible situation and you need to not get dead. Don't look too stupid and you'll be fine. I'm there next month as well

USMC3197 10-25-2008 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by JetPipeOverht (Post 485722)
You're given an impossible situation and you need to not get dead. Don't look too stupid and you'll be fine. I'm there next month as well

It is my 1st LOFT and 2 months w/o flying... worried about how bad my sim ride is going to be. Impossible situation... GREAT.... :confused:

gtechpilot 10-25-2008 08:36 PM

My LOFT last month was a simple trip to KTYS with deteriorating weather and generator that fried at an inopportune time. Fly the plane, deal with the problem and remember, its a learning experience, so take advantage! I think I hadn't flown in 6 weeks prior...don't sweat it!

andy171773 10-25-2008 08:46 PM

ASA makes computers?

hotelmode 10-25-2008 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by andy171773 (Post 485737)
ASA makes computers?

They also publish a lot of books and make computer software. They make E6B's too.

String682 10-26-2008 06:45 AM

You'll be flying a scenario otherwise known as the "Kobayashi Maru" ending in the red screen of death.
On a serious note, I did mine two weeks ago, it went fine, and its been thirty days since I've last flown on the line. Send a PM if you want more specifics.

CRJDriver 10-26-2008 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by hotelmode (Post 485775)
They also publish a lot of books and make computer software. They make E6B's too.


There is a difference between Atlantic Southeast Airlines & Aviation Supplies and Academics! :D

ThunderChicken 10-26-2008 12:02 PM

Thanks for the replies guys, sounds like its not toooo bad...

BlueSkies 10-26-2008 07:18 PM

I just had a PC about a week ago. It wasn't bad, although I did study quite a bit for it mostly because I'd rather be over prepared than under prepared. It's already been mentioned, but know your memory items, limitations, systems, all the usual stuff. Think of it this way, when you do a LOFT you are usually in for a surprise of some kind, but a PC is very straight forward, V1 cut, single engine ILS, etc. Just study a little bit and stay relaxed.

John Pennekamp 10-27-2008 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by ThunderChicken (Post 485598)
Hey guys,

I have a PC coming up, its my first one, so if you guys have any advice, pointers, or know of things to study that I would overlook I would appreciate any input. Take care out there.

A PC is a recreation of your original type ride. If you passed it once, you can pass it again, just study! Personally, I'd rather have a PC because it's structured, and you know what to expect. Down side is you're in jeopardy.

John Pennekamp 10-27-2008 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by daniel0265 (Post 485717)
What about a LOFT? Mine is next month and I haven't flow since 9/1

LOFT is a line flight in the sim. Usually, you fly one leg where everything is "normal" then one leg where all hell breaks loose. They grade you on how you deal with it.

LOFT tends to be more for captains because a lot of it involves judgment and cockpit management. As the FO, just be sure you know your memory items and do what you are told. Chiming in if the skipper tries to do something dumb is a bonus.

In a LOFT you really aren't in jeopardy unless you don't know how to fly, do something incredibly dumb, can't run a checklist, or don't know your memory items. Everything else is a debrief. They tend to be much lower key than a PC which is an actual checkride.

mxav8r 10-27-2008 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by John Pennekamp (Post 486352)
...As the FO, just be sure you know your memory items and do what you are told.

Wow, you're such a _ _ _ _ . It really is obvious why your career has stalled at ASA. Do you introduce yourself as "Captain"?

usmc-sgt 10-27-2008 04:15 PM

I did not find what John said that out of line. We can not kid ourselves into thinking we are something that we are not. We "assist" the PIC in the duties of the flight.

They call for the QRH, we read it to them and do what they say. I understand where you are coming from but all of us right seaters really know where we stand.

John Pennekamp 10-27-2008 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by mxav8r (Post 486444)
Wow, you're such a _ _ _ _ . It really is obvious why your career has stalled at ASA. Do you introduce yourself as "Captain"?

Ummm, ok...

First, have you flown with me? Even met me in person? Then don't judge.

If you had done any of those things, you'd know that in the cockpit I'm one of the most laid back captains here. Ask around the ATR FOs.

I meant no malice. I said that because if he takes my advice it makes his checkride easy and stress free, It's called DOING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF YOUR JOB. Kind of like not volunteering extra information on an oral and digging yourself a hole. Do I expect that on a daily basis? Of course not, don't be a moron.

Now, those were some pretty harsh and uncalled for personal attacks. Do you feel better now? If you'd like to man up and tell me that to my face, you know where to find me. I suspect you won't. It's real easy to take shots at someone hiding behind a screen name, isn't it?

WF

JetPipeOverht 10-27-2008 07:00 PM

Someone please don't drop the ' i bet he went to riddle ' line...gettin tired of that one

broncoflyer8912 10-27-2008 07:04 PM

I found that on the LOFT, since all hell broke loose during my leg, it was the CA grabbing the QRH and we worked together on things. Maybe it was cuz I was flying with a good captain but he ran the situation by me and verified his decision with me.

mxav8r 10-27-2008 08:12 PM

I owe John Pennekamp a apology. Sorry. I'm a former Check Airman at ASA and can tell you the most dangerous thing in a cockpit is a complacent FO and a "IN CHARGE" Captain.
The FO is there to assist and CHALLENGE the Captain on decision making when SAFETY is concerned.
We have had PLENTY of incidents at ASA that could of been prevented if the FO voiced their opinion.
Once again, in know way do I infer JP is that kind of Captain. Sorry.

John Pennekamp 10-28-2008 07:36 PM

No worries.


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