Colgan Changes Rules again to SUIT THEM
#51
I'd go with ALPA over Teamsters. ALPA isn't great, but they do at least specialize. They also have many more resources that you just won't get with Teamsters. The ALPA Aeromedical unit is just one small example of a service available to members that you won't get with the others...
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#53
they have until 11/4 (I believe) to file their cards. if they do, they will be included in the ballot, and people can vote for either one and the union with the majority votes will win.
if they dont file their cards, only ALPA will be on the ballot. this may dissuade some of those diehard IBT guys from voting, and thus if the vote fails AGAIN, any union who wants to try again has to wait ANOTHER year. what I'm saying is if IBT doesnt file this time, they're gonna have to wait another year. that is another 12 months without a contract. 1 more year of BS like street captains being allowed to transition ahead of guys senior to them. I hope those IBT guys think about this before they decide not to vote, if they are truly for representation.
if they dont file their cards, only ALPA will be on the ballot. this may dissuade some of those diehard IBT guys from voting, and thus if the vote fails AGAIN, any union who wants to try again has to wait ANOTHER year. what I'm saying is if IBT doesnt file this time, they're gonna have to wait another year. that is another 12 months without a contract. 1 more year of BS like street captains being allowed to transition ahead of guys senior to them. I hope those IBT guys think about this before they decide not to vote, if they are truly for representation.
#54
Dude, I'm honestly not sure which planet you're living on, but PIC turbine is exactly THAT. The ONLY company I've ever heard of that doesn't accept prop time is Emirates ... and sure that's a great company if you want to go overseas. But pilots from Colgan have gone to EVERY major airline in the Country ... so don't even try to give us that BS... and what regional airline out there is 2nd year FO pay higher than $41.50?!?! Please, tell me
#55
I think since we got 70% of the pilot group to send in cards this time, we have a much better chance of getting the vote to pass ... last year, it was a bit rushed I think. If it doesn't pass this time ... we deserve to be screwed over ... over and over again
#56
*** ???? SWA, Air Tran, and CAL are full of BE1900 Captains that were hired with zero jet time.... PIC turbine is PIC turbine at most of the carriers. The people I hear making that distinction most of the time are the 300 hr right seat wonders that think everything is jet time.. or some HR person who knows very little about aviation. True.. jet time is quality time.. but it's not the only time. When I've sat on hiring boards and done sim checks, I've actually found the turbo-prop guys to have a little better air sense and better monkey skills. Fight for that PIC time..
#57
I don't know if someone said this already, I didn't get to read all the posts. The way I understood things was displaced pilots would be retrained for available positions before pilots that have not been displaced. It was suposed to be the same for those displaced out of their crew bases, although it didn't seem to work that way.
#58
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: B767F FO
Posts: 407
True Delta dropped their PIC time officially, but how many FOs without it do you know of that got hired, unless they REALLY knew someone? Some were hired, but not nearly as many as those that had their resumes thrown out.
As for JetBlue, yes some people went there, but only after they too dropped the PIC requirement, which happened to coincide with the whole situation over there looking a lot less rosy, in order to attract applicants.
End of the day, TPIC time trumps any type of SIC time.
Just remind them to vote, regardless. Everyone that chooses not to vote at all is the same as voting against ALL union options.
As for JetBlue, yes some people went there, but only after they too dropped the PIC requirement, which happened to coincide with the whole situation over there looking a lot less rosy, in order to attract applicants.
End of the day, TPIC time trumps any type of SIC time.
Just remind them to vote, regardless. Everyone that chooses not to vote at all is the same as voting against ALL union options.
#59
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: B767F FO
Posts: 407
And RJ's won't satisfy the Emirates requirement either. It used to, but since the deluge of applications began in earnest, they now say they will only consider jet time experience of 737 or equivalent and larger.
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