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imasaluki 10-31-2008 11:40 AM

haha, I thought it was fun too... arguing on the internet is America's new favorite pastime. I'm just glad I could contribute.

TurboDog 10-31-2008 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by geddeh (Post 489167)
Depends on the two companies and the circumstances of the merger. If pilot group X had a more senior list than Pilot group Y would that be fair?

During a merge, you would take your date of hire at Delta and others date of hire at Northwest. Merge the two and your years of service is where your seniority would be. That would be fair. Adding one group to the bottom of another would never work. As adding the furloughed guys to the bottom of a list wouldn't be fair either.

CTPILOT 10-31-2008 01:18 PM

I'm a Comair guy with 1yr senority and applied to Mesaba but I don't want to chase upgrade, that could change very fast. Yes Mesaba sounds like a real good deal but taking the pay cut, going on the bottom of another regional that is wholly owned by a airline that is involved in a merger, they have a flowthrough and also a flowback yes but flowback though might hurt for newbies. I don't know.... I'm taking a interview if I get it and if hired it will take alot of thinking to make a final decision, but don't mind playing the waiting game with Comair.

CTPILOT 10-31-2008 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by jaded (Post 489097)
15 900's for Mesaba, it's official.

I guess we find out why Mesaba has been hiring so much. Oh what should I do....screw it I'm going trick or treating and handing my resume out while I'm doing it

TAILSKID 10-31-2008 01:32 PM

answer
 
i was offered to interview with mesaba...been thinking since i posted this thread....i have decided not to take the gig with them. i will throw the dice here and let it play out, at least when i come back(if comair stays alive), i will be on fourth year 70 fo pay........now thats 8 years at mesaba to be back at the pay i got in 4years. best of luck to the ones that jumped ship and went to mesaba, time will tell. thanks for everyones thoughts.:confused:

bored 10-31-2008 02:07 PM

Wow, you accrue longevity at Comair when you're on furlough? That's a pretty good furlough gig. How deep are furloughs going?

CTPILOT 10-31-2008 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by bored (Post 489770)
Wow, you accrue longevity at Comair when you're on furlough? That's a pretty good furlough gig. How deep are furloughs going?

206 of us most senior I think is April '07

Avroman 10-31-2008 03:17 PM

No kidding I'd love to have that 14 months back I lost furloughed from here....

ebl14 10-31-2008 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by TurboDog (Post 489703)
During a merge, you would take your date of hire at Delta and others date of hire at Northwest. Merge the two and your years of service is where your seniority would be. That would be fair. Adding one group to the bottom of another would never work. As adding the furloughed guys to the bottom of a list wouldn't be fair either.

Oh really? Your impeccable logic has worked wonders in merging the NWA and DL mainline senority lists... in fact does anyone know how that actually played out.

If.... and its a huge if... comair and mesaba merged I guarantee it would not be a DOH merger. More than half of mesabas pilots, including a number of captains would go to reserve/highspeed/furloughed FO in an instant. The good news would be for all of the 2+ year fo's at Comair.... congradulations you finally get to upgrade! You can see where the problems begin to arise.

andy171773 10-31-2008 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by ebl14 (Post 489961)
Oh really? Your impeccable logic has worked wonders in merging the NWA and DL mainline senority lists... in fact does anyone know how that actually played out.

If.... and its a huge if... comair and mesaba merged I guarantee it would not be a DOH merger. More than half of mesabas pilots, including a number of captains would go to reserve/highspeed/furloughed FO in an instant. The good news would be for all of the 2+ year fo's at Comair.... congradulations you finally get to upgrade! You can see where the problems begin to arise.


OK GUYS

they're not merging Comair and Mesaba, or Comair and anyone..it WILL NOT HAPPEN!

no way

no how

From what i hear from DL guys, it's relative seniority +/- a few percentage points. Not everyone is going to be happy, but it's the most fair way to do it.



aaaaand

it's congratulations...


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