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flyingkangaroo 10-31-2008 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by Confused (Post 489267)
It says Mesaba is getting these birds on the quicktake.

This is unbelievable. All the low paid regionals are getting all this new flying and we at ASA are downgrading captains to FO. When the hella is ASA going to get some reward for going from crap to an ontime respectable airline. Does 80% of ATL DCI flying not mean a thing after a merger??

Losin my motivation to fly ontime pretty fast here.

Fellow ASA pilots, please don't look at this way, if we are losing that much flying in atl delta has likely modified the contract, I doubt uncle Jerry and BH would let big D just take away flying from us and violate the contract. Delta seems to realize they are losing the contract battles in court, with ASA performance is solid compared to last year so they would have no leg to stand on. Remember you should just be mad that the mesaba 900's aren't going to Delta because that's were we all want to be in the end anyways right? A few months ago an ASA pilot put up something about redistribution of flight schedules between ASA and Mesaba, it could have been BS but maybe he was right to some effect.

logic1 10-31-2008 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo (Post 489224)
Good luck, unless Delta has modified ASA's agreement you will not be moving that many in. Remember, ASA takes 80% of all flying in ATL per their contract. Are we taking over some of your bases in exchange as to spread the DCI Carriers? This rumor seems like bs unless DAL is totally restructuring the system and changing contracts.

Yeh...because Delta and its lawyers couldn't possibly get around ASA/Sky West contract provisions.

BoilerUP 10-31-2008 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by logic1 (Post 489419)
Yeh...because Delta and its lawyers couldn't possibly get around ASA/Sky West contract provisions.

They couldn't get around Mesa/Freedom contract provisions...

PinnacleFO 10-31-2008 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by 314159 (Post 489303)
Here, I'll straighten you out.

Freedom had 7 CRJs. Delta is in the process of taking them away from Freedom, and they're not going to Mesaba. They're going to Pinnacle. I know, because Pinnacle is already operating 3 of the 7 Freedom planes, and they'll take delivery of the final 4 within the next week.

Don't believe me? Pinnacle is currently operating N605LR,N606LR,N607LR.

Now, is Mesaba going to get 15 new CRJ-900's? I bet they are. But they aren't getting Freedom's.

What part of pinnacle operating those planes temporarily don't you understand. We are only operating them until January

JetPipeOverht 10-31-2008 06:33 AM

To me, it seems like we're all sitting in the corner of the room doing backflips trying to get Daddy's ( Delta ) attention while watching the football game...

Lighteningspeed 10-31-2008 06:37 AM

For what it's worth I found this on another thread and found it interesting.

Richard Anderson
The great piece here is between Compass and Mesaba you have the very best operators in cost structure. So, our goal with our contract carriers is to bring their margins down over time to more accurately reflect the overall margins in the industry. And Compass and Mesaba will give us that ability to shift flying from contract carriers to owned carriers at much better CASM.

Here's the link:
Delta Air Lines, Northwest Airlines Merger Call Transcript - Seeking Alpha

Caveat: No one knows what is going to happen until it actually happens but the indications are all pointing in the direction of Mesaba getting more CRJ9s. What will actually happen to Mesaba and Compass after the merger, though, is a total speculation at this point.

Airsupport 10-31-2008 07:32 AM

all of that was said during the press confrence when they first announced they wanted to merge. i think saving face and trying to make it look like a good deal was all they were trying to do.

Pilottech 10-31-2008 07:36 AM

According to APC.
  • Taking an additional 15 CRJ900s, 2 per month, starting Feb. 12th
  • 7 new off the line, and 8 from Freedom

flyboyzz1 10-31-2008 07:48 AM

guess I haven't been paying attention but....I thought pinnacle was getting the freedom stuff?

airdog 10-31-2008 07:48 AM

According to APC.
  • Taking an additional 15 CRJ900s, 2 per month, starting Feb. 12th
  • 7 new off the line, and 8 from Freedom
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WHOA....read Delta's quarterly report.....Comair is financing all 900's...part of PCL's 900's are temp...everyone wait for the Mesa flap to be resolved and merger integration plan to be announced.

10Q:http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/27904/000119312508211682/d10q.htm


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