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B1900YX 11-05-2008 05:57 PM

Rah To Operate 10 E-190's For Us Airways
 
On November 1, 2008 Republic Airways Holdings entered into an agreement to operate 10 EMB 190s for U.S. Airways in return for the $35 million dollar loan Republic will make to U.S. Airways

I was reading wikipedia I discovered this article....

Republic Airlines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

EvilMonkey 11-05-2008 06:00 PM

Answers my question in another forum...and explains the upgrade vacancies...

mccube5 11-05-2008 06:00 PM

im gonna need to see something from a slightly more reliable source then wiki. a formal press release would be more appropriate, thats usually the way the company gives their employees formal news like this.

crustacean 11-05-2008 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by mccube5 (Post 492573)
im gonna need to see something from a slightly more reliable source then wiki. a formal press release would be more appropriate, thats usually the way the company gives their employees formal news like this.

Not to mention the information was added to Wikipedia from 201.230.169.221--an IP address located in Peru. Not exactly what I'd consider credible information.

andy171773 11-05-2008 06:09 PM

Wow, RAH to a new low, i hope this isn't true

Rightseat Ballast 11-05-2008 06:09 PM

Bunch of crud, that wiki. No press release to date. While 190's for Airways are not impossible, it would be made known through a press release first. No one finds out what deal BB made until the investors find out. BB makes deals for the benefit of the stock value and the shareholders. He will brag to them before he ever tells his dedicated employees.

Rightseat Ballast 11-05-2008 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by andy171773 (Post 492581)
Wow, RAH to a new low, i hope this isn't true

The Wiki says the deal was announced November 1st. Today is November 5th. DO you really think that every mouth at RAH would just keep such an announcement under wraps? At least 12 of our resident losers would have posted some rub-it-in comment within five minutes of such a deal, not five days!

Da Magic 11-05-2008 06:16 PM

can't be true............ i wonder who put that on wiki?

EvilMonkey 11-05-2008 06:24 PM

So would BB make WH sleep with the devil for more flying?

BBedford 11-05-2008 06:28 PM

*deleted message*

EvilMonkey 11-05-2008 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by BBedford (Post 492593)
No, but I make him give the devil rusty trombones.


All your flying are belong to us.

...wow..................

katana 11-05-2008 06:42 PM

No longer there. I personally dont think its true especially when it is posted on Wiki and others didnt mention any word about it.

EvilMonkey 11-05-2008 06:44 PM

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Da Magic 11-05-2008 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by EvilMonkey (Post 492602)

what is that?

EvilMonkey 11-05-2008 06:48 PM

Bad link to a pic...sorry!

BBedford 11-05-2008 06:51 PM

http://i35.tinypic.com/24e8hms.gif

threegreen 11-05-2008 07:03 PM

WOW EMB190 for a regional airline! Next it is going to be B736.

Really hope this is not true

B1900YX 11-05-2008 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by katana (Post 492600)
No longer there. I personally dont think its true especially when it is posted on Wiki and others didnt mention any word about it.


WOW that was fast that statement is now longer there.(on wikipedia)

when I posted the oroginal first post it was still there, this really doesn't make sense...

Well we shall see what happens....

johnso29 11-05-2008 08:05 PM

Nice job trying to stir the pot, but it's BS and a huge piece of flamebait.

tpersuit 11-05-2008 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 492650)
Nice job trying to stir the pot, but it's BS and a huge piece of flamebait.

No kidding. Not to mention that US Airways already flies E190s with their own pilots and have a pay scale. The only way this would even happen is if they got around scope, because I can't see how limiting the seats on the E190 for non US Airway's pilots to fly them would be cheaper than filling the seats to the max and sticking with US Airways pilots.

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/a...s_airways.html

with a fleet of 23 E190s in their own house, I just can't see how it would be economical to outsource them when you look at how much they pay their own pilots on the E190. Remember RAH would want to make a guaranteed profit. Why would US Airways not just stick in house and keep the profits to themselves?

B1900YX 11-05-2008 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 492650)
Nice job trying to stir the pot, but it's BS and a huge flamebait.


Hey, I not trying to stir any pots here... I was reading about the 170 on wikipedia, eventually ended up reading about RAH. And came across that info. It ws posted right below the midwest flying and above the Hawaiian flying. But now its gone...
Hopefully someone in here saw it as well when I first posted the link here on APC, and can back me up on this...

By the way I am furloughed from S5, and currently with Compass, that being said I am not trying to start any rumors or flaimbaits here. I was just curious if I was the first one to discover this info...

If anyone else saw it, please back me up here...

tpersuit 11-05-2008 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by B1900YX (Post 492658)
If anyone else saw it, please back me up here...

B1900YX, read my post above yours.

Oh and to give you some more info on Wikipedia. Jack Johnson was the CEO of ExpressJet the other day.



Here's the post on Wikipedia you were refering to:
Old Republic Airlines page on Wikipedia

"On November 1, 2008 Republic Airways Holdings entered into an agreement to operate 10 EMB 190s for U.S. Airways in return for the $35 million dollar loan Republic will make to U.S. Airways"

It was false and removed.

NonRev4Life 11-05-2008 09:14 PM

I just want to say thanks to everyone who didnt believe in this craziness and didnt blow it out of proportion.

johnso29 11-06-2008 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by B1900YX (Post 492658)
Hey, I not trying to stir any pots here... I was reading about the 170 on wikipedia, eventually ended up reading about RAH. And came across that info. It ws posted right below the midwest flying and above the Hawaiian flying. But now its gone...
Hopefully someone in here saw it as well when I first posted the link here on APC, and can back me up on this...

By the way I am furloughed from S5, and currently with Compass, that being said I am not trying to start any rumors or flaimbaits here. I was just curious if I was the first one to discover this info...

If anyone else saw it, please back me up here...

Yeah, I shouldn't have directed my post at you, it was intended for whoever went onto Wikipedia and changed info. That's why Wikipedia is somewhat unreliable at times. The info is easily tampered with. Sorry for making it seem like an attack towards you.

flyguy19348 11-06-2008 05:55 AM

a) RAH guys stop thinking the 35 mil is a big loan. Airways secured somewhere close to 800-900 mil in loans in the last few months. And you have no idea who loaned the rest.
b) you have no pay scale for a 190. not that you need one cuz it will prob be flown just as cheap as the 170-175.
c) Airways will not allow an express carrier to fly an aircraft with a 1st class. And you are already beyond the scope now.
d) if it was true....why 10? they wont have mainline fly 13 and you fly 10...it would be all or nothing....
please RAH guys check yourselves.

EEmbraer 11-06-2008 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy19348 (Post 492754)
b) you have no pay scale for a 190. not that you need one cuz it will prob be flown just as cheap as the 170-175.

Just to correct you on this -

We do have a pay scale for 79-99 Turbojet Aircraft. It doesn't specifically state E190 as it does in the APC Quicktake, but we have a payscale that would fit for the USAir E-190 configuration.

I am not going to say whether or not we should get them. All that I ask is that you research information prior to posting it here.

The ironic thing, too, is that after year 12, a Republic E190 Captain (which I know doesn't exist right now) is actually making more in a 190 than a USAir Captain. At year 15, a 170 Captain is making more than a USAir 190 Captain. So I ask you, who is flying them just as cheap?

I'm just getting really tired of pilots blaming pilots about lessening the profession, taking jobs, doing the same job for cheaper money, etc. Everyone talks about unity - where is it? Last I checked, it was management making the decisions. In the end, I just want to fly and make sure that I have enough money to support my family.

Flyboy8784 11-06-2008 06:23 AM

Somebody please close/lock this thread before peoples blood pressures spike and heart attacks ensue :cool:

MU2P 11-06-2008 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by EEmbraer (Post 492762)
The ironic thing, too, is that after year 12, a Republic E190 Captain (which I know doesn't exist right now) is actually making more in a 190 than a USAir Captain. At year 15, a 170 Captain is making more than a USAir 190 Captain. So I ask you, who is flying them just as cheap?

See what they had to do to keep thier own airplanes from RAH

HercDriver130 11-06-2008 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy19348 (Post 492754)
a) RAH guys stop thinking the 35 mil is a big loan. Airways secured somewhere close to 800-900 mil in loans in the last few months. And you have no idea who loaned the rest.
b) you have no pay scale for a 190. not that you need one cuz it will prob be flown just as cheap as the 170-175.
c) Airways will not allow an express carrier to fly an aircraft with a 1st class. And you are already beyond the scope now.
d) if it was true....why 10? they wont have mainline fly 13 and you fly 10...it would be all or nothing....
please RAH guys check yourselves.

Well maybe if you didnt shoot your mouth of like the post above guys would just let it go..... for what it is/was..... a load of BS meant to **** people off.

heywood 11-06-2008 07:21 AM

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logic1 11-06-2008 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 492657)
No kidding. Not to mention that US Airways already flies E190s with their own pilots and have a pay scale. The only way this would even happen is if they got around scope, because I can't see how limiting the seats on the E190 for non US Airway's pilots to fly them would be cheaper than filling the seats to the max and sticking with US Airways pilots.

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/a...s_airways.html

with a fleet of 23 E190s in their own house, I just can't see how it would be economical to outsource them when you look at how much they pay their own pilots on the E190. Remember RAH would want to make a guaranteed profit. Why would US Airways not just stick in house and keep the profits to themselves?

Especialy when US Airways rates are lower.

katana 11-06-2008 07:53 AM

check this out guys. A330? its obviously a false info but I bet no one will resist! So stop acting like you wont. I bet you will complaint about your company for having E190 but you wont quit or wont fly in em.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_Airlines

Killer51883 11-06-2008 07:57 AM

wow when did we get the 320's? i just finnished my first trip on the 330 and what a wonderful airplane that was.... all nice and shiny.

NonRev4Life 11-06-2008 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy19348 (Post 492754)
a) RAH guys stop thinking the 35 mil is a big loan. Airways secured somewhere close to 800-900 mil in loans in the last few months. And you have no idea who loaned the rest.
b) you have no pay scale for a 190. not that you need one cuz it will prob be flown just as cheap as the 170-175.
c) Airways will not allow an express carrier to fly an aircraft with a 1st class. And you are already beyond the scope now.
d) if it was true....why 10? they wont have mainline fly 13 and you fly 10...it would be all or nothing....
please RAH guys check yourselves.

way to be that guy, im going to go on wikki right now and post

"RAH pilots are awesome and will be the only domestic carrier in the united states starting January of 2009."

Just because I can. There is a reason why universities and colleges will not let you use wiiki as a resources when citing on papers; because, anyone can write anything in them. So please, before you climb up on your white horse or climb your ivory tower, please don't get worked up over every little thing you read on the net and post un-true information about it.

flyguy23 11-06-2008 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by andy171773 (Post 492581)
Wow, RAH to a new low, i hope this isn't true



Hey andy, how are those 900s coming for comair? Mesaba? Funny how easy it is to criticise someone else for doing what you already support at your own company. A new low? Seems to me your company has already been there, done that.

BlueSkiesAhead 11-06-2008 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy23 (Post 493170)
Hey andy, how are those 900s coming for comair? Mesaba? Funny how easy it is to criticise someone else for doing what you already support at your own company. A new low? Seems to me your company has already been there, done that.

Are you trying to compare the 900 to the 190? I hope not. The 900 is equivalent to the 175, not the 190. Any regional operating an E190 for a mainline partner is a sad day.

UnlimitedAkro 11-06-2008 03:08 PM

Why is this thread still open?

This just in: Gojets to operate 3 Boeing 747's, no wait... 787's for Quantas starting in 3 days, in Pakistan only.

Nothing stupid in that sentence either.


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